From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MKCkV-0000Q0-S1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:49:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 922D3E02B4; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter17.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter17.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.17]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D77E02B4 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYBAPd8REp2Xbxh/2dsb2JhbAAI0BCEDQWGMg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,297,1243771200"; d="scan'208";a="194883893" Received: from 118-93-188-97.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO [192.168.0.3]) ([118.93.188.97]) by smtp.mailfilter5.ihug.co.nz with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2009 02:49:51 +1200 Message-ID: <4A44E051.3000206@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:50:57 +1200 From: Alistair Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090325) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections References: <200906252100.52295.wk@mailstation.de> <4A44C339.4050303@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4A44C339.4050303@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: url= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b08276b9-3629-43b7-87d5-a174e141c853 X-Archives-Hash: b069b74972e53ee8c3d613273358d9fd Ben de Groot wrote: > I would think the only thing that matters is the best interest of > Gentoo. This is after all the _Gentoo_ Council we're speaking of, not a > body that is concerned with non-Gentoo matters. ++ > In my opinion it is in the best interest of Gentoo at this point to > ignore Exherbo and to silence those people involved with Exherbo that > have been so divisive and generated so much conflict in Gentoo channels. Why silence what you can ignore? Also Exherbo is the most similar project we have to compare ourselves too. If drobbins had ignored freebsd where would we be now? We shouldn't ignore anything, debain, suse, fedora, etc, etc, etc all have something to contribute. Ignoring them because "we" don't like their members will only make Gentoo weaker. We should instead be looking at what they have done that we can use to improve gentoo. As our closest relative ( of any distro ) having Council members that have at least a basic understanding of what (and how) they are attempting to achieve is a good thing. The same goes for Sabayon. > To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been booted > from Gentoo is a clear lapse of judgement, and would in my eyes > disqualify the involved council member from functioning in that position. I actually look forward to seeing how he goes. >> While the other candidates certainly have great merits, they tend to only see >> one side and concentrate too much on Gentoo alone. > > I would hope so. The people we elect to the council should concentrate > on Gentoo, otherwise they'd have a conflict of interest. Maybe we should force Council members to disclose their involvement with other projects? You never know, we might have a ubuntu dev on the council :D Alistair.