From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGM3y-0003q2-GD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:58:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB7A9E0371; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16F7E0371 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CE0361F1E for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:58:04 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: EimpaqvY5xMq0wQsDL/fcDfwyokjvZF5B6qkwCHjXqBK 1245110284 Received: from [192.168.188.1] (82-71-33-97.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.33.97]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1AA4F36D72 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A36E00A.8000008@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:58:02 +0100 From: Mike Auty User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090519) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding Nipper license to the tree References: <4A355D68.6050803@gentoo.org> <20090615003901.GC18753@orbis-terrarum.net> In-Reply-To: <20090615003901.GC18753@orbis-terrarum.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 806d6698-4cd0-49e2-a933-76e69412369c X-Archives-Hash: ffc3ce1c34e68d26897d8c853450921e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The website stills says GPL v3: > http://nipper.titania.co.uk/licensing.php Yep, the website's going to be updated for version 1.0 (with the license change). > ... I can't really comment on a lot of this, unfortunately. > Similar to the TrueCrypt issue, I'd say do NOT commit any ebuild covered > by this license until the matter is resolved. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of... > ... legal comments ... Again, I'm afraid I can't really comment on these, but thank you for the analysis, it was much appreciated to have a second pair of eyes look this stuff over. >> Any patches or updates that the Licensee may develop for NIPPER must >> be immediately submitted to the Licensor. In addition, the Licensee >> will forthwith transfer without charge all current and future rights >> including copyrights and other intellectual property rights relating >> to such updates to the Licensor. > Gentoo is NOT a licensee under any of the classes of use listed in the > license. We don't use it, and we're not a commercial integrator. Ergo > there is a loophole that allows us to patch it without losing our rights > to the patches. HOWEVER, I'd be concerned that the context > (non-modified) portions of the path are still bound by the original > license, and would violate non-distribution. I'm not keen on relying on loopholes. If I did still want to try and get a version of this into the tree, would packaging the binary RPM seem a reasonable solution? It's a shame given that the sources are potentially available (primarily released for Gentoo) and no real problem with making an ebuild, it's just the legalese... 5:( So I'll leave the source version out of the tree, but I'd like thoughts on using RPM as a solution? Also I don't know whether an exception could be made for Gentoo, but equally I don't know how to phrase one of them either (Gentoo Foundation or all Gentoo developers), so I'm hesitant to ask. If anyone has any other ideas or possibilities, do let me know. Thanks... Mike 5:) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAko24AoACgkQu7rWomwgFXqEKACgsibF2QEaIB8t+flrhA0wHMMp Y0gAn3qesB0Li4DmRrquiXCEmUkDfbA6 =nvtn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----