From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGFbQ-0007k2-K2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:04:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED31AE020B; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay07.ispgateway.de (smtprelay07.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.7]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD09E020B for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [85.179.15.131] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtprelay07.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MGFbN-00063z-DG; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:04:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4A367F08.3050209@hartwork.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:04:08 +0200 From: Sebastian Pipping User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090502) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Buchholz CC: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, PackageKit users and developers list , Paul Wise , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Petteri_R=E4ty?= Subject: Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap" References: <4A3206DA.3090907@hartwork.org> <4A33CB75.8010400@gentoo.org> <4A33F7F1.80000@hartwork.org> <200906151552.08793.rbu@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200906151552.08793.rbu@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Df-Sender: 874396 X-Archives-Salt: 49f1ece1-7bb8-4640-a744-3a35deb880ab X-Archives-Hash: 8c446c0146b7967d9b00339a0260b981 Robert Buchholz wrote: > On Saturday 13 June 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> One of the stronger points for collaborating at the source is that >> poeple who are not Gentoo devs (yet) and therefore have no write >> access to the Gentoo tree can still extend and fix the Gentoo >> packagemap entries. Doing it downstream would hurt the whole project >> in several ways. > > To drive the project forward and find cross-distro acceptance, the > packagemap repo/server has to be the authorative source of information > for distributions that participate. > > However, I see advantages in a distributed model to collect the > information. Gentoo developers could feed tags into the > metadata.xml of the tree and do not need to sign up to commit to the > third-party packagemap repository. Synchronizing changed tags to the > packagemap repository should be easy to automate. Changes in the > repository could be propagated back to the tree by a designated team of > Gentoo developers interested in the packagemap project. > > I have a feeling other distributions might also favor a model where they > have more control about the data without giving all their devs access > to one big repo. Paul Wise of Debian also articulated interest in doing database building at distro level, so that's one more point /for/ your feeling. However there are a few more things to take into account, please have a look at my reply to Paul: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/popcon-developers/2009-June/001759.html Sorry for not CC'ing you, I should have though of that. Thinking the other way around: Is there anything we could do to make the central place approach work and feel better for everybody? Sebastian