From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MAtHo-00067G-M9 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:13:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B952BE02AB; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82DFE02AB for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw.thefreemanclan.net ([71.242.220.77]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKJ00IH13UA3CB3@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:01:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.thefreemanclan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCAB1759CCD for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A22FE31.3090106@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:01:21 -0400 From: Richard Freeman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss References: <20090527210642.6b7b0f21@snowcone> <20090530145613.37514ceb@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> <4A21E40A.60500@gentoo.org> <200905311126.00274.bangert@gentoo.org> In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f1f09100-8bc2-4c5b-bd8e-79da0da8b6bf X-Archives-Hash: f3b97cf2a53a8a9e2f2dc0196c050167 Duncan wrote: > A team can have the best rhetoric in the world, but if they don't > actually show up and field a team on game day, they lose by default. > Fortunately or unfortunately, that looks to be where this is headed. > Agreed, there is definitely something to be said for offering solutions. I think that parts of GLEP55 are an ugly hack, but since I'm not the one writing code the best I can do is ask those who are to think carefully about what they're about to do. In the end, it is better for gentoo for something to happen rather than nothing.