From: Richard Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:38:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49A492F0.8020402@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A472E3.1010204@gentoo.org>
Petteri Räty wrote:
> 3) EAPI in locked down place in the ebuild
> - Allows changing global scope
> - EAPI can't be changed in an existing ebuild so the PM can trust
> the value in the cache
I don't see how this follows. The PM can compare the mtime on the file
with the time the cache was updated and refresh if needed. Or we could
require users to manually refresh the cache if they modify an ebuild.
> - Does not allow changing versioning rules unless version becomes a
> normal metadata variable
I don't see how this follows. You can put any version in the filename
that you like just as with the EAPI in the filename approach. A package
manager won't process the filename if it doesn't understand the EAPI.
The order of processing for a package manager would be:
1. Scan for files named *.ebuild.
2. Scan the nth line inside to obtain the EAPI.
3. Take further action in accordance with the EAPI - possibly including
obtaining the package name/version from the filename, or maybe somewhere
else entirely.
> * Needs more accesses to cache as now you don't have to load older
> versions if the latest is not masked
Why wouldn't you cache every version of a package with its EAPI for
reference? I don't follow why this needs more cache hits. However,
even if you had to hit the cache more often I don't see why a cache
lookup would be expensive. Isn't it stored in a sensible format for
rapid random access?
My preference is obviously for embedding the EAPI inside the file in
some manner. My second preference would be for only changing the file
extension on rare occasions that are individually approved by the
Council when things need to change dramatically, as opposed to any time
the EAPI changes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-25 0:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-24 22:21 [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Petteri Räty
2009-02-24 22:49 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 23:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-02-25 0:38 ` Richard Freeman [this message]
2009-02-25 2:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeremy Olexa
2009-02-25 3:53 ` Dawid Węgliński
2009-02-25 4:32 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-25 6:46 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-25 6:49 ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-02-25 6:53 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-25 21:00 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-25 8:16 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 10:05 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-02-25 10:34 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-25 10:59 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-02-25 11:18 ` Mike Auty
2009-02-25 11:57 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-25 12:49 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-25 22:19 ` Andrew Gaffney
2009-02-25 23:03 ` [gentoo-dev] eapi function (Was: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives) Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:02 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26 0:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:24 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26 0:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:43 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2009-02-26 0:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 11:07 ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-25 14:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Robert Buchholz
2009-02-25 19:03 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 21:09 ` Josh Saddler
2009-02-26 2:13 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-02-26 3:13 ` Kumba
2009-02-28 20:52 ` Kumba
2009-02-26 5:36 ` Zac Medico
2009-02-26 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:47 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 18:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 19:16 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 19:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-27 9:27 ` Caleb Cushing
2009-02-27 10:52 ` Rémi Cardona
2009-02-28 10:56 ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 12:25 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2009-02-28 19:39 ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-28 19:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-02 7:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-02 8:33 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-02 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thilo Bangert
2009-03-09 13:01 ` Jacob Floyd
2009-03-09 15:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-03-09 19:54 ` Richard Freeman
2009-03-10 6:18 ` Duncan
2009-03-10 15:58 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 21:11 ` Santiago M. Mola
2009-03-10 8:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-12 17:18 ` Alistair Bush
2009-03-13 10:29 ` Michael Haubenwallner
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