From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LYKrD-00027d-35 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:46:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD20AE03B0; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF5BE03B0 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [151.57.3.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB303B4A4F for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4996CB4D.6030905@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:46:53 +0100 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081205) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Live source based ebuild proposals References: <20090212214925.GA21532@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> <20090213155445.GA31550@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> <4995ABE2.4000907@gentoo.org> <20090213172725.34258824@snowcone> <4995CB0B.80209@gentoo.org> <20090213194141.24d44a37@snowcone> <4995D82C.9080107@gentoo.org> <20090213203758.5b04ca93@snowmobile> <4995F15F.5090505@gentoo.org> <20090213222233.40efa9fd@snowmobile> <4995F5B6.5010003@gentoo.org> <20090213225209.7ef5403e@snowmobile> <4996066E.90306@gentoo.org> <20090213235351.381cffcd@snowmobile> <20090213191923.7fb35b94@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> In-Reply-To: <20090213191923.7fb35b94@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4e768d96-9aab-4131-916b-10754d4e12f9 X-Archives-Hash: cfb02087257d0a8d3f1bf0eaf627bafe Ryan Hill wrote: > I'm sorry, Luca, but I can't do what I want to do with your proposal. I'd like to know what you want to do. > With the -scm suffix I can. Good to know, once you state what it is > Actually I thought this was settled. What exactly is the issue holding > GLEP 54 back that we need more discussion and different proposals? - the glep 54 draft was deem unspecified and about 6 month ago. Peper was asked by the council to add more details on why and how it is useful. Nobody did anything and now he isn't even more acting as proxy to Ciaranm requests. - since apparently some people even disliked that proposal basically because in their eyes it didn't add any to -9999 in term of functionality people suggested to use a specific property to mark ebuilds as "live" and have portage act accordingly. - in addition some people (me being the main writer) started discussing what really they needed that -9999 doesn't give already, focus being the ability to track live sources installed and possibly the ability to get from an ebuild using live sources to an ebuild using a snapshot automatically. Thus the half baked document I put in my devspace got in. If there weren't people quite vocal against -scm the council wouldn't have been involved. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero