From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LPxOy-0000oZ-Lk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 288F2E02A7; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.apserver.co.uk (server2.alteredperspective.co.uk [212.13.194.103]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD21E02A7 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.apserver.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB5B94030 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.apserver.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server2.alteredperspective.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ivFH4DcR5LA8 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.50] (home.twigathy.com [93.96.164.20]) by mail.apserver.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8E5A94007 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:07 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4978535B.9060404@allenjb.me.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:07:07 +0000 From: AllenJB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20090108 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] QEMU Sick! References: <4977AFA8.8010309@o2.pl> In-Reply-To: <4977AFA8.8010309@o2.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8e4ee2e3-a25e-445e-9157-b303d9dbccc9 X-Archives-Hash: acc207d453ae6e23eb28384b48afdf61 Mateusz Mierzwinski (me.matheos.org) wrote: > - No main packages updates. Define "main packages". If there are packages you know to be out of date, file a bug at http://bugs.gentoo.org > > - No serious Gentoo-Wiki - rewritten after great boom! Yes, the loss of content on Gentoo Wiki was unfortunate. An offsite backup system has now been put in place so this won't happen again on the same scale. Others have scraped Google Cache for most of the old content and put it up at http://gentoo-wiki.info. Many have been busy working on articles on the new wiki and it is fast returning to its former glory (it's even better in some respects IMO - the rewrite has been an opportunity to correct some issues). > > - Portage blocks! - in 2005 there was no blocks, system was stable and > working with max performance - now blocks are needed - WHY?! Portage blockers did exist in 2005. What's more, as of portage 2.1.6, most blocks are now resolved automatically. > > - Amd64 have oldest packages developed by devs (much don't work). This is completely false. I use amd64 on most of my machines and the only thing I have issues with is Flash - but that's certainly not the fault of the Gentoo developers. > > - GLI death! People used GLI! You write OS for PPL, not for Your usage. The GLI has, in my opinion, been in a poor state since its inception. It has slowly gotten a bit better, but not enough. In my opinion it should never have been an icon on the desktop of the livecd. It wasn't ready. And for whatever reasons, progress on fixing its issues never seemed to be that good. Also, you'll actually find most open source developers are in it to "scratch an itch". It may seem completely selfish, but it works. Developers volunteer their time on projects they are interested in. You can't force people to work on things they aren't interested in in their free time - it'll never work. I also believe there's an alternative project which is replacing the GLI for what it was intended to be used for. Details of this will be in the announcement when it is released. > > - Stupid ideas about kicking off creator of Gentoo - You using his work! > That's sucks! Try to rewrite whole portage by Your own then You can kick > off anyone You like! No one "kicked off" Daniel Robbins - As far as I know he left of his own accord. His relatively recent "return" is a long story and another issue entirely. > > - KDE 4.1 packages updates... or should I say - none of it! Latest > unstable version of KDE 4 is 4.2 version!!! KDE is being worked on in overlays at the moment. Personally I don't think it's ready for everyday use yet. I tried the 4.2 SVN versions recently and it still had many issues. > > Check DistroWatch what You done with Gentoo! In 2007 Yr. Gentoo was 7-th > place, and now? Distrowatch ranks distros based on page views on its site. It's hardly a great way to rank distros. AllenJB