[gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[Friedrich Oslage]

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Since yesterday we finally have a stable version of
app-admin/eselect-news in the tree [0], now it's time to get some news
rollin' :)

The 2008.0 sparc profile uses a pure 32 bit userland and a 64 bit
kernel. A few days ago I added an experimental multilib profile which
uses 32 bit as default but also supports -m64.

Problem is you can't simply switch your make.profile symlink, that's why
we have a migration guide [1] and the purpose of this news item would be
to notify users who switched to that profile that they need to read and
follow that guide.

Besides causing gcc and glibc to fail compilation, not reading that
guide would also make a users system end up with two different libdirs:
lib and lib32
(All our non-multilib profile use lib as libdir and our multilib
profiles use lib32/lib64 with lib as a symlink to one of them)

I'll commit this in 72 hours unless someone objects.

Regards,
Friedrich

[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251810
[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~bluebird/sparc-multilib/
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Title: Migrating to the new sparc mutlilib profile
Author: Friedrich Oslage <bluebird@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2008-12-30
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib/desktop
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib/developer
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib/server

When migrating to the new sparc mutlilib profile please keep in mind that it is
still in an experimental state. Also note that you need to follow the migration
guide [0], otherwise important packages such as gcc or glibc will fail to
compile and most other packages will be installed incorrectly.

[0] http://dev.gentoo.org/~bluebird/sparc-multilib/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[Jeremy Olexa]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Friedrich Oslage <bluebird@gentoo.org> wrote:

> [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~bluebird/sparc-multilib/

I would put it in the gentoo.org/doc/en/ domain and link to it in the
gentoo-sparc index
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/sparc/index.xml)

2 cents,
Jeremy

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[Josh Saddler]

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Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Friedrich Oslage <bluebird@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~bluebird/sparc-multilib/
> 
> I would put it in the gentoo.org/doc/en/ domain and link to it in the
> gentoo-sparc index
> (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/sparc/index.xml)
> 
> 2 cents,
> Jeremy
> 

Mmm, not so much. Documentation like this, that's so specific to one
particular architecture, would be better off in project documentation --
that's (partly) why ya'll have project directories in the first place.
Otherwise it becomes a maintenance burden for the GDP. It'll be easier
on the Sparc team to maintain it if it's in their own /proj/ space.

What we can do, however, is list it in metadoc.xml, so that it will show
up in /doc/en/list.xml.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[Friedrich Oslage]

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Josh Saddler schrieb:
> Mmm, not so much. Documentation like this, that's so specific to one
> particular architecture, would be better off in project documentation --
> that's (partly) why ya'll have project directories in the first place.
> Otherwise it becomes a maintenance burden for the GDP. It'll be easier
> on the Sparc team to maintain it if it's in their own /proj/ space.
> 
> What we can do, however, is list it in metadoc.xml, so that it will show
> up in /doc/en/list.xml.
> 

Right, x86 or ppc users won't benefit from reading it ;)

I moved it to the sparc space and attached the revided news item.

Regards,
Friedrich
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Title: Migrating to the new sparc mutlilib profile
Author: Friedrich Oslage <bluebird@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2008-12-30
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib/desktop
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib/developer
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/experimental/multilib/server

When migrating to the new sparc mutlilib profile please keep in mind that it is
still in an experimental state. Also note that you need to follow the migration
guide [0], otherwise important packages such as gcc or glibc will fail to
compile and most other packages will be installed incorrectly.

[0] http://sparc.gentoo.org/multilib.xml

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[Petteri Räty]

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Friedrich Oslage wrote:
> Josh Saddler schrieb:
>> Mmm, not so much. Documentation like this, that's so specific to one
>> particular architecture, would be better off in project documentation --
>> that's (partly) why ya'll have project directories in the first place.
>> Otherwise it becomes a maintenance burden for the GDP. It'll be easier
>> on the Sparc team to maintain it if it's in their own /proj/ space.
> 
>> What we can do, however, is list it in metadoc.xml, so that it will show
>> up in /doc/en/list.xml.
> 
> 
> Right, x86 or ppc users won't benefit from reading it ;)
> 
> I moved it to the sparc space and attached the revided news item.
> 
> Regards,
> Friedrich

s/mutlilib/multilib/

I also don't understand why this news item needed to wait for a Portage
to go stable.

Regards,
Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

[Friedrich Oslage]

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Petteri Räty schrieb:
> s/mutlilib/multilib/

Thanks, fixed.

> I also don't understand why this news item needed to wait for a Portage
> to go stable.

It didn't need to wait for portage but portage just happened to go
stable about the same time the profile was added to the tree :)

Cheers,
Friedrich
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