From: Richard Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:21:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4918DE04.8010207@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4918D0BC.50202@gentoo.org>
Jose Luis Rivero wrote:
> I would prefer to analyze the causes of the slacker arch (manpower,
> hardware, etc) and if we are not able to solve the problem by any way
> (asking for new devs, buying hardware, etc) go for mark it as
> experimental and drop all stable keywords.
How is that better? Instead of dropping one stable package you'd end up
dropping all of them. A user could accept ~arch and get the same
behavior without any need to mark every other package in the tree
unstable. An arch could put a note to that effect in their installation
handbook. The user could then choose between a very narrow core of
stable packages or a wider universe of experimental ones.
I guess the question is whether package maintainers should be forced to
maintain packages that are outdated by a significant period of time.
Suppose something breaks a package that is 3 versions behind stable on
all archs but one (where it is the current stable). Should the package
maintainer be required to fix it, rather than just delete it? I suspect
that the maintainer would be more likely to just leave it broken, which
doesn't exactly leave things better-off for the end users.
I'm sure the maintainers of qt/baselayout/coreutils/etc will exercise
discretion on removing stable versions of these packages. However, for
some obscure utility that next-to-nobody uses, does it really hurt to
move from stable back to unstable if the arch maintainers can't keep up?
I guess it comes down to the driving issues. How big a problem are
stale packages (with the recent movement of a few platforms to
experimental, is this an already-solved problem?)? How big of a problem
do arch teams see keeping up with 30-days as (or maybe 60/90)? What are
the practical (rather than theoretical) ramifications?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-11 1:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-10 18:13 [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds Mark Loeser
2008-11-10 18:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-11-10 18:23 ` Mart Raudsepp
2008-11-10 20:32 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2008-11-10 21:16 ` Jeremy Olexa
2008-11-10 21:57 ` Santiago M. Mola
2008-11-11 0:24 ` Jose Luis Rivero
2008-11-11 1:13 ` Mark Loeser
2008-11-11 9:31 ` Jose Luis Rivero
2008-11-11 1:21 ` Richard Freeman [this message]
2008-11-11 8:56 ` Peter Volkov
2008-11-11 10:18 ` Jose Luis Rivero
2008-11-11 13:49 ` Ferris McCormick
2008-11-11 16:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-11-11 16:24 ` Jeroen Roovers
2008-11-11 17:26 ` Duncan
2008-11-11 17:55 ` Ferris McCormick
2008-11-11 18:12 ` Jeroen Roovers
2008-11-11 21:03 ` Duncan
2008-11-13 17:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-15 13:02 ` Matti Bickel
2008-11-17 18:08 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-17 19:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-12-11 5:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-17 0:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-11-17 15:10 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2008-11-18 1:08 ` Ryan Hill
2008-11-18 16:57 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2008-11-18 17:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-11-18 20:31 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2008-11-18 21:18 ` Ryan Hill
2008-11-18 22:04 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2008-11-18 22:45 ` Ryan Hill
2008-11-30 22:59 ` Ryan Hill
2008-12-01 7:49 ` Peter Volkov
2008-12-11 5:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
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