[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Ben de Groot]

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Hi,

I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used
for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories
for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the
help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds for these packages in
the lxde overlay [3], and I would like to move the ebuilds for the
release versions into the official tree now. (The overlay also contains
live svn ebuilds.)

LXDE currently has 14 packages that would go into this new category,
which is comparable to what xfce-base has. It also uses x11-wm/openbox
as default WM, and x11-misc/pcmanfm as default filemanager, although
these can be easily swapped for others.

Comments are welcome!

1: http://lxde.org/
2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/157989
3: http://www.bitbucket.org/yngwin/lxde-overlay/src/

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Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, desktop-misc)
Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Robert Bridge]

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On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:05:54 +0100
Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used
> for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the
> categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde,
> xfce). With the help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds
> for these packages in the lxde overlay [3], and I would like to move
> the ebuilds for the release versions into the official tree now. (The
> overlay also contains live svn ebuilds.)
> 
> LXDE currently has 14 packages that would go into this new category,
> which is comparable to what xfce-base has. It also uses x11-wm/openbox
> as default WM, and x11-misc/pcmanfm as default filemanager, although
> these can be easily swapped for others.
> 
> Comments are welcome!

As a use who looked at LXDE for older machines, but decided that not to
mess around with overlays on otherwise stable x86 boxes, can I vote for
this?

> 1: http://lxde.org/
> 2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/157989
> 3: http://www.bitbucket.org/yngwin/lxde-overlay/src/

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Christian Faulhammer]

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Hi,

Robert Bridge <robert@robbieab.com>:
> As a use who looked at LXDE for older machines, but decided that not
> to mess around with overlays on otherwise stable x86 boxes, can I
> vote for this?

 You can, and I am sure you can also rely on that overlay to be in good
shape, so test it.
 +1 by the way for inclusion. 

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

<URL:http://www.faulhammer.org/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Mart Raudsepp]

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On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 12:05 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used
> for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories
> for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the
> help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds for these packages in
> the lxde overlay [3], and I would like to move the ebuilds for the
> release versions into the official tree now. (The overlay also contains
> live svn ebuilds.)

++

Note that I will propose to the GNOME team to reorganize the GNOME
categories to gnome-platform/, gnome-desktop/, gnome-dev/,
gnome-bindings/ or similar setup once we have atomic commits to the
portage tree (a la git) to not disrupt anything from all the moves.
But I think with just 14 packages an lxde-base makes the most sense
indeed, with upstream probably not having them categorized themselves
like GNOME has.


-- 
Mart Raudsepp
Gentoo Developer
Mail: leio@gentoo.org
Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Josh Saddler]

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Ben de Groot wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used
> for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories
> for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the
> help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds for these packages in
> the lxde overlay [3], and I would like to move the ebuilds for the
> release versions into the official tree now. (The overlay also contains
> live svn ebuilds.)
> 
> LXDE currently has 14 packages that would go into this new category,
> which is comparable to what xfce-base has. It also uses x11-wm/openbox
> as default WM, and x11-misc/pcmanfm as default filemanager, although
> these can be easily swapped for others.
> 
> Comments are welcome!
> 
> 1: http://lxde.org/
> 2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/157989
> 3: http://www.bitbucket.org/yngwin/lxde-overlay/src/
> 

I dunno . . . given the Xfce (the OTHER lightweight DE) team's decision
to start getting rid of the xfce-* categories, near as I can tell, is
this really consistent with what the rest of the desktop teams are
doin'? Or is it just Xfce that seems to be less consistent with other
categories.

Aside from these recent actions, lxde categories seem like a good idea,
same as for all our other desktops.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Josh Saddler]

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Ben de Groot wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used
> for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories
> for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce).
> Comments are welcome!

First, thanks for getting this stuff into the tree; I just synced, and
it's all very nice. 'Cept for one thing:

$ eix -c lxappearance
[N] lxde-base/lxappearance (~0.2): LXDE GTK+ theme switcher
[N] x11-themes/lxappearance (~0.2): a desktop-independent theme switcher
for GTK+
Found 2 matches.

So...any reason why BOTH these packages are still in the tree? Couldn't
one of them have been removed entirely or just moved categories? Because
right now "emerge lxappearance" returns the ambiguous error, and it
really doesn't need to be that tricky. :)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

[Ben de Groot]

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Josh Saddler wrote:
> Ben de Groot wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used
>> for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories
>> for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce).
>> Comments are welcome!
> 
> First, thanks for getting this stuff into the tree; I just synced, and
> it's all very nice. 'Cept for one thing:
> 
> $ eix -c lxappearance
> [N] lxde-base/lxappearance (~0.2): LXDE GTK+ theme switcher
> [N] x11-themes/lxappearance (~0.2): a desktop-independent theme switcher
> for GTK+
> Found 2 matches.
> 
> So...any reason why BOTH these packages are still in the tree? Couldn't
> one of them have been removed entirely or just moved categories? Because
> right now "emerge lxappearance" returns the ambiguous error, and it
> really doesn't need to be that tricky. :)
> 
Oops... I did the move  in profiles, but then forgot to remove the old
location. Will fix right away.

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Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, desktop-misc)
Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison
__________________________________________________

yngwin@gentoo.org
http://ben.liveforge.org/
irc://chat.freenode.net/#gentoo-media
irc://irc.oftc.net/#lxde
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