[gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Christian Faulhammer]

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Hi,

everyone working on bugs, please add all people from metadata.xml to
the assignee or cc field, I regularly have to search for bugs where a
team and I maintain a package because only the team has been added.
 Second, please use full atoms (cat-egory/package) in the Summary
field, so searching is easier.

V-Li

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Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Mark Loeser]

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Christian Faulhammer <opfer@gentoo.org> said:
> Hi,
> 
> everyone working on bugs, please add all people from metadata.xml to
> the assignee or cc field, I regularly have to search for bugs where a
> team and I maintain a package because only the team has been added.
>  Second, please use full atoms (cat-egory/package) in the Summary
> field, so searching is easier.

jer added some good stuff up on the bug-wranglers page:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/bug-wranglers/index.xml#doc_chap4

-- 
Mark Loeser
email         -   halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org
email         -   mark AT halcy0n DOT com
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Joe Peterson]

Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> everyone working on bugs, please add all people from metadata.xml to
> the assignee or cc field, I regularly have to search for bugs where a
> team and I maintain a package because only the team has been added.
>  Second, please use full atoms (cat-egory/package) in the Summary
> field, so searching is easier.

Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy maintainer
(i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this person be added to
metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I can certainly see this
being helpful (so that person automatically gets on the cc list at least).

					Thanks, Joe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Dawid Węgliński]

On Monday 08 of September 2008 22:22:12 Joe Peterson wrote:
> Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> > everyone working on bugs, please add all people from metadata.xml to
> > the assignee or cc field, I regularly have to search for bugs where a
> > team and I maintain a package because only the team has been added.
> >  Second, please use full atoms (cat-egory/package) in the Summary
> > field, so searching is easier.
>
> Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy
> maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this person be
> added to metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I can certainly
> see this being helpful (so that person automatically gets on the cc list at
> least).
>
> 					Thanks, Joe

Yes, and usually that's how it's done. Eg eix' metadata.xml says:

  <maintainer>
    <email>vaeth@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de</email>
    <name>Martin Väth</name>
  </maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Santiago M. Mola]

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Dawid Węgliński <cla@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Monday 08 of September 2008 22:22:12 Joe Peterson wrote:
>> Christian Faulhammer wrote:
>> > everyone working on bugs, please add all people from metadata.xml to
>> > the assignee or cc field, I regularly have to search for bugs where a
>> > team and I maintain a package because only the team has been added.
>> >  Second, please use full atoms (cat-egory/package) in the Summary
>> > field, so searching is easier.
>>
>> Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy
>> maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this person be
>> added to metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I can certainly
>> see this being helpful (so that person automatically gets on the cc list at
>> least).
>>
>>                                       Thanks, Joe
>
> Yes, and usually that's how it's done. Eg eix' metadata.xml says:
>
>  <maintainer>
>    <email>vaeth@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de</email>
>    <name>Martin Väth</name>
>  </maintainer
>
>

Yep. And for more completeness you can add something like
<description>Proxied maintainer<description/>. Although, it's quite
obvious when it's a non-Gentoo email.

Regards,
-- 
Santiago M. Mola
Jabber ID: cooldwind@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Jeroen Roovers]

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:22:12 -0600
Joe Peterson <lavajoe@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy
> maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this
> person be added to metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I
> can certainly see this being helpful (so that person automatically
> gets on the cc list at least).

metadata.xml should explain precisely whom to assign/CC to. The normal
<maintainer> tag should be used to list proxy maintainers just like it
lists Gentoo developers, and the <email> tag for a proxy maintainer
should list an e-mail address that bugs.gentoo.org knows about.


Kind regards,
     JeR

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Joe Peterson]

Jeroen Roovers wrote:
>> Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy
>> maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this
>> person be added to metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I
>> can certainly see this being helpful (so that person automatically
>> gets on the cc list at least).
> 
> metadata.xml should explain precisely whom to assign/CC to. The normal
> <maintainer> tag should be used to list proxy maintainers just like it
> lists Gentoo developers, and the <email> tag for a proxy maintainer
> should list an e-mail address that bugs.gentoo.org knows about.

Thanks to all who replied!

							-Joe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Josh Saddler]

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Joe Peterson wrote:
> Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy maintainer
> (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this person be added to
> metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I can certainly see this
> being helpful (so that person automatically gets on the cc list at least).

Not that I've noticed. For example, I'm the maintainer of 
decibel-audio-player, but aballier is the one who actually commits stuff 
for me (my access does not include gentoo-x86). We're both listed as 
<maintainer> in metadata.xml. No special tag.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Joe Peterson schrieb am 08.09.2008 22:22:
> 
> Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy maintainer
> (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this person be added to
> metadata.xml?  Is there a special tag for this?  I can certainly see this
> being helpful (so that person automatically gets on the cc list at least).
> 
> 					Thanks, Joe
> 

I maintain two packages [1,2] as proxy and I am listed in metadata.xml 
with the normal maintainer tag. There are also other packages where 
proxy maintainers are listed this way in metadata.xml. Don't know if 
there is an extra tag for proxy maintainers though.

[1] 
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-video/ttcut/metadata.xml?view=markup
[2] 
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-tv/channeleditor/metadata.xml?view=markup

Regards,

Daniel

[gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Christian Faulhammer]

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Hi,

please be careful when assigning new bugs.  Today I changed several
bugs where the wrong maintainer was used or where the main maintainer
has been forgotten.  This only occured since we have no full-time
bug-wrangler anymore.  Was anyone successful to contact him, yet?

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

<URL:http://www.faulhammer.org/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Ferris McCormick]

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On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:20 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> please be careful when assigning new bugs.  Today I changed several
> bugs where the wrong maintainer was used or where the main maintainer
> has been forgotten.  This only occured since we have no full-time
> bug-wrangler anymore.  Was anyone successful to contact him, yet?
> 
> V-Li

I am told he should be back sometime soon, like today.  Apparently
someone is in contact with him.

Regards,
Ferris

-- 
Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Denis Dupeyron]

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ferris McCormick <fmccor@gentoo.org> wrote:
>  This only occured since we have no full-time
>  > bug-wrangler anymore.  Was anyone successful to contact him, yet?
>  I am told he should be back sometime soon, like today.  Apparently
>  someone is in contact with him.

That he comes back or not is of no importance to bug wrangling. Or at
least it should be. It is a mistake to solely rely on a developer for
such a task. Developers come and go without warning, he just proved
it, so ideally we need a team of 2 or 3 to handle bug wrangling. Also,
one single developer handling this puts him/her in such a prominent
position that it is bad for him/her, our users, other developers and
the entire project. We had too many examples of this.

Denis.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

[Mark Loeser]

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Denis Dupeyron <calchan@gentoo.org> said:
> That he comes back or not is of no importance to bug wrangling. Or at
> least it should be. It is a mistake to solely rely on a developer for
> such a task. Developers come and go without warning, he just proved
> it, so ideally we need a team of 2 or 3 to handle bug wrangling. Also,
> one single developer handling this puts him/her in such a prominent
> position that it is bad for him/her, our users, other developers and
> the entire project. We had too many examples of this.

Making an actual bug wrangling team (subproject of QA) is something
I've been toying around with in my head.  I'd love to get an actual team
set up so we can encourage users to help us get the information we need
in bugs so it is less work for us.  Several other distributions have
such projects, so we have something we can use as a template.

-- 
Mark Loeser
email         -   halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org
email         -   mark AT halcy0n DOT com
web           -   http://www.halcy0n.com

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