From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KEgnP-0006MT-OK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:37:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E953EE02BC; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from castor.sshunet.nl (castor.sshunet.nl [145.97.192.41]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9CFE02BC for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by castor.sshunet.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E057557C002 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:37:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at castor.sshunet.nl Received: from castor.sshunet.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (castor.sshunet.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rHaQC2EmOGgo for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [145.97.223.39] (39pc223.sshunet.nl [145.97.223.39]) by castor.sshunet.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <486DE169.6090103@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:38:01 +0200 From: "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080620) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests References: <20080704011609.66a81d28@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: <20080704011609.66a81d28@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4b99bfc3-6b61-4f10-b9c8-35652e5ba5e2 X-Archives-Hash: 6aeb78308ddcd34734782d169d8aa1ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > Hi fellow developers, > > > it seems I've run into a minor issue with fellow bug wrangler carlo > (who has been putting a lot of work into that, for which we should all > be grateful). > > Carsten has a cut-and-paste message that he posts in comments to > version bump bug reports that he finds have been filed on the day the > software version in question was released/announced. The gist of the > message is that none of or most ebuild developers do not like these > "0-day requests" and that users (and developers) should refrain from > filing them on the same day. Waiting a week would be OK, the message > seems to say. > > Being an ebuild developer myself, I have to say that I do not hold that > stance and that I welcome early version bump requests. Therefore, I > refrain from adding such messages to the bugs that I wrangle and indeed > welcome any bump requests[1]. > > Finding myself in conflict with someone I have come to share a certain > workload with, notably someone who has a few more years of Gentoo > experience, I wonder what the majority of our ebuild developers > actually think. In that spirit, I hope the following questions are > neutral enough for everyone to *not* start a flamewar over this. :) > > > ----- > 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request? Since current mores make sure there are not so many, I don't mind them. > 2) If you had your way, would you discourage users from filing early > version bump requests? To prevent every package from getting a 0-day bump request, I'd say give it a day or two at least, unless you have some info other than that there is a new version. For example that the current ebuild still works with the new version or that it doesn't. It helps with gauging which bumps are trivial and which aren't. If someone only wants to tell me some new version is out, I prefer they ping me on irc. > ----- > > I know, it's not a particularly good survey, but I hope the plenty and > diversity of your answers will shed more light on the matter. :) > > > Thank you and kind regards, > JeR > > > [1] In fact I regularly use the opportunity to check on the HOMEPAGE > whether the release was security related, and I assign directly to > security@ when that is the case (CC'ing the package's maintainers) and > perhaps pasting ChangeLog or advisory info in a comment. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML , #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkht4WkACgkQp/VmCx0OL2xJ6QCfbX/IvrzARx3AY2FzAHW4sD2P TasAn2NTD0c+HE0ehaG3wd9bFdk+yzSh =pj1H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list