From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6utZ-0006z8-SX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:03:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03735E04D0; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FE2E04D0 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z27so453997ugc.49 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7RedOLoL0kvZb/2CeEVx9tl17eq2RqtSjCKNQ1X5Enc=; b=e/S+WiZWd7NmVRC1Om78aqfp+EGymC68/l6W2acJQUmUbripee//yFabs3jlo1IJva K4lujRUs4gcPng6C2zB2wWQ/cVRHVfsY4m72ln43LF22I9rVdz51Rd0svwi4SgO9YkEN 2bKfcc+URx+lSQx44gUA1+HMlLTmuAPmav1Bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lY93r8ReGkLuhvlbTC3umZcgHNThVC73eirxPSVIIl/T/cMBkR7Ow8Zk0xVcDLlcUk ODbeuseVXFyv1z16GqedWgbkDraIPG29aDiv/KeDFf2u9gm3qiVJP+LbhNybUlzBN3Kd Ko/wqiXMoRco3vfb1/+D3Bdp3EsTVmEmWD4O4= Received: by 10.67.29.4 with SMTP id g4mr3107103ugj.84.1213308226959; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.144? ( [84.68.62.141]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm8294547ugp.49.2008.06.12.15.03.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48519D3B.5040502@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:03:39 +0100 From: George Prowse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June] References: <20080611070618.54E4066E24@smtp.gentoo.org> <20080611215827.GB7074@comet> <20080612084128.7221bb09@googlemail.com> <4850D5AD.2090108@gentoo.org> <20080612090136.43f0beac@googlemail.com> <4850DA7F.7030406@gentoo.org> <48515DB3.1040502@gmail.com> <20080612190443.64b5a5d7@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20080612190443.64b5a5d7@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3a1fc0e3-bc02-42a2-baa5-ec1633ab2785 X-Archives-Hash: 1557038b8fe0e69b6f7afca91a99d8d3 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:32:35 +0100 > George Prowse wrote: >> If the bickering is stopping development then maybe it should be >> given to a 3rd party to complete and have the last word. > > Considering third parties have at best contributed a few small patches, > I don't see that getting very far... If a third party's genuinely > prepared to take over and do the work they're more than welcome to. > I dont see that the work isn't done, I see arguing about standards and implementations and as there is 3 voices in this and little is being decided then anything that can't be sorted should be submitted for review and decisions taken. There are things that I don't understand about the EAPI structure (why versions may be incompatible with each other) but it seems like we are heading for differing standards soon. Feel free to flame and call me a fool... -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list