From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6uHQ-0003WO-09 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:24:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7579EE047E; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4761CE047E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unknown [151.57.14.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F40F66819 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <485193F8.30700@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:24:08 +0200 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080601) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June References: <20080611070618.54E4066E24@smtp.gentoo.org> <20080611111133.GA6803@seldon.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> <48517A60.7000906@gentoo.org> <485192DE.2020906@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <485192DE.2020906@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d15b2623-c5c3-437d-99b9-8594835734cc X-Archives-Hash: 26dad0daae662de96950302ff2f4a146 Doug Goldstein wrote: > Doug Goldstein wrote: >> Brian Harring wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 03:06:17AM +0000, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> >>>> This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council >>>> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the >>>> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). >>>> >>>> If you're supposed to show up, please show up. If you're not supposed >>>> to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance >>>> for you. >>>> >>>> For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage: >>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ >>>> >>> >>> Reiterating the early request, I'd like the council to please discuss >>> the current status of PMS, if the running of it satisfys the councils >>> requirements of a *neutral* standard, if the proposed spec actually >>> meets said standards, and if said spec is actually going to be >>> approved sometimes this side of '09. >>> >>> Effectively, we've watched it essentially progress into a standard >>> that effectively only the paludis folk are adherent to (if in doubt, >>> ask portage folk, my sending this mail is indicative of the pkgcore >>> standpoint)- it's about time the council comment upon it in light of >>> the general view. >>> >>> Yes, ciaran shall comment. My request still stands. >>> Thanks, >>> ~harring >>> >> I'd honestly like to see an official PMS project page i.e. >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pms/ >> >> On this page it'd be nice if there was an official link to the current >> PMS instead of having to rely on grabbing it from random locations >> i.e. d.g.o/~coldwind/ or d.g.o/~spb/ > > Allow me to clarify a bit more. I'd like to see a collaborative website > that developers for all actively maintained package managers can > contribute to and update providing details about compatibility and > implementation of the PMS and future additions or revisions of the PMS > that will be put forth before the Gentoo Council. I agree with Cardoe, the specification should be made as useful as possible to the package maintainers, as accessible as possible by every interested party and possibly have a regression/conformance test built in (such a small tree with dummy ebuilds and eclasses) to allow automated validation. Stronger and well defined versioning should help as well. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list