From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Q2C-000464-2C for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:06:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EC3CE04A5; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEBCE04A5 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (151.57.14.216) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.014) id 484D2FE70049DDD8 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:06:37 +0200 Message-ID: <484FCDAB.8000404@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:05:47 +0200 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080601) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started References: <484EAB4F.6070608@gentoo.org> <484EAC1C.4020009@dev.gentooexperimental.org> <8b4c83ad0806100933vb06644ehcbe4b4e3d4006601@mail.gmail.com> <484EAE4A.6020902@gentoo.org> <20080611001123.GA7972@seldon.metaweb.com> <20080611065737.3ac6cfb6@googlemail.com> <484F6A88.6090404@gentoo.org> <20080611071121.6082e3e2@googlemail.com> <484FAF31.10901@gentoo.org> <20080611121438.1ab87917@googlemail.com> <484FBF75.1030502@gentoo.org> <484FC764.2060409@bernd-steinhauser.de> <484FC9CF.6010708@gentoo.org> <20080611140019.0b7a9fe2@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20080611140019.0b7a9fe2@googlemail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 14bc3a2b-6210-476e-877b-73f64516d90b X-Archives-Hash: 8bd9f059f221b7aae9a82ebdc50daed3 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > EAPI 1 is entirely specified in terms of a diff against EAPI 0. That doesn't have a complete definition by itself. > Checking every part that's changed before releasing an EAPI 1 package > manager is the least any responsible person would do. That they would > release a version without doing such basic tests shows you just how > much they care about Gentoo... Again smearing without substance. >> Assuming that Ciaranm isn't just lying knowingly it's just plainly >> rude, otherwise it is pure malice. > > What, asking the pkgcore people to test their code before releasing a > version that claims to support EAPI 1 but actually doesn't, forcing > people to avoid using some of EAPI 1 to avoid breaking pkgcore, is > malice? Saying that w/out giving any substance? Sure! > The whole "EAPI lets us do upgrades cleanly" process is broken when > people release a package manager that claims to support a certain EAPI > but doesn't. If pkgcore had any actual users we'd have to consider > banning EAPI 1 in the tree and releasing EAPI 2 as being identical to > EAPI 1 just to work around this. Apparently those users do not see the problem, you do, help those blind people. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list