From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77D3C139694 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 649D9274093; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 162E223403D for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (pool-71-114-85-145.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.114.85.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bman) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA80B3417C0 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:48:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Aaron Bauman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:48:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4837762.rSmXoIlFJ8@localhost.localdomain> Organization: Gentoo In-Reply-To: <1897557.6sYsMVzEX5@wanheda> References: <1897557.6sYsMVzEX5@wanheda> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4264004.r2GT3uQVGb"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 89e47df8-8121-4f76-9d0b-1a16ef6ce41b X-Archives-Hash: b96d8c70d3e9a0f3f3b9062ef2b596c5 --nextPart4264004.r2GT3uQVGb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday, July 10, 2017 1:22:20 PM EDT Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > Hi all. > > every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, I > always see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. > Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put more > effort in amd64 and less where I saw other people work on it (arm,alpha) > But every time the magic phrase is that those arches are unmaintained. > > Now, since I work on these arches just to help, i.e. I don't have any > business and I do non have any installation of those arches and the work > I'm doing is not appreciated at all I decided to stop for now. > If your dream is to put sparc and ia64 to ~arch, go ahead, I have no > objections. > I will take a break also from amd64 and x86...let's see how things will > change. Your efforts have not gone unnoticed from my perspective. You were always the one to do the bulk of the work on most arches. I don't believe that you going on a break will fix anything either. The bottom line is that you cannot do it alone and maintain the state of stable tree that is expected by our users and fellow developers. If you cannot accept that your work alone is not enough then I would ask you reevaluate the importance of those minor arches. The facts are evident and they are a hinderance to the overall state of the distribution, in my opinion. There is more than just keywording and stabilization at stake here. Security is a major factor as well. Surely, you will be missed during your break and I hope you find some time to recuperate. Thank you for all the work you have done and surely will do in the future. -Aaron --nextPart4264004.r2GT3uQVGb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEWXLShI6KRGDn3misnyi9i9Hjlf8FAllkIEwACgkQnyi9i9Hj lf9zihAAjH22BZayX8iV0Ij4WPdeuEnv1++T6yxK7lsX6rwc91fH7H6Miq96iqgz 9J23NtY9aIhouyDYTSebOMf7AeMOkirwoMrHneDAef0djzErwGGzzKSg37uNQllC nuBj7ygCgMQHsrWt+NXWRkyZrXhUrpg01TH20UEpK6wzwps6f9cpeg1qQhwUSgPn J+0+jeCdCjLwo79Gx4m0PBWOt3RLRNZpQCKwbmHngRk4FV2hisQwGcdKGVWSX2wm dHtrH9wfuCsROzYXmnjw4+zxY+0ae2e/j/u0hwdXxmulrRkWhII1MzrmqEW1yeoz +fGn4hCeAnu2dEi3lGm47AscoReAD+P5E4MBnzUbcn5UGKSVdqiGDGFDaJGRr0De AA7W/hLiIzikARJyxJ8NSPRCtWPsIkWagEJptyO0V4N5ieRrUxcXzlLoOYgJ/dv4 o2f6tyUaSmSl7EhmRyb16B7pSTKY5ffj0hlEpAS/vMzwIhP3k5ZYBglrfKIFo6C4 6k/cP1R1dGwEccBOlhW4xfmHOObBTvVQpIRPqRvzZJB8aht8D4cR/tro/i0Yvb4t qpqtGRxlml2sz4hK+3tvYHHO2YDFtaMRmoyikPfKxvOBFJo9krAQLY7whbhSsNvD N3ugzEpsu88yktNmFgTnNRLji3otgd7Vz6tbgH1kn4lo6bhH9gk= =n+KT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4264004.r2GT3uQVGb--