[gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Markus Meier]

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Potential candidates (flag-name, count):
server                        13
custom-cflags                 9
gsm                           7
logrotate                     7
java5                         6
hdf5                          6
djvu                          6
multislot                     6
webdav                        6
audacious                     6
cxx                           6
demo                          6
music                         5
fax                           5
editor                        5
keyring                       5
html                          5
css                           5
fontconfig                    5
highlight                     5
tools                         5
zip                           5
fits                          5
nfs                           5
cvs                           5
http                          5


These are my proposals:

hdf5: Adds support for the Hierarchical Data Format v5

djvu: Enable djvu support

cxx: Enable support for C++

fax: Enable fax support

css: Enables ripping of encrypted DVDs

fontconfig: Support for managing custom fonts via media-libs/fontconfig

highlight: Enable source code highlighting

cvs: Enable CVS (Concurrent Versions System) support


Comments are welcome.


Markus

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

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On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 21:01 +0100, Markus Meier wrote:
> Potential candidates (flag-name, count):
>
> java5                         6

Contrary to last comment about this flag going global. We ( the Gentoo
Java Team ) have decided it will be a global use flag, along with java6.
I will be adding descriptions for both shortly ( today for sure as time
permits ). java7 might be added in the near future as well.

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[gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Markus Meier]

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Potential candidates (flag-name, count):
pch                           18
server                        14
custom-cflags                 9
logrotate                     8
gsm                           7
demo                          7
multislot                     6
audacious                     6
tools                         6
music                         5
fax                           5
smp                           5
editor                        5
html                          5
webdav                        5
nautilus                      5
clisp                         5
hesiod                        5
nfs                           5
qt3support                    5
dxr3                          5
http                          5
web                           5
upnp                          5


My proposals:

pch: Enable precompiled header support for faster compilation at the
expense of disk space and memory (>=sys-devel/gcc-3.4 only)

qt3support: Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4


Markus

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Jan Kundrát]

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Markus Meier wrote:
> qt3support: Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4

While it affects a few "packages", they all are parts of the Qt toolkit 
(which we previously shipped in one big package). I can't see a scenario 
where this flag might be used on a package not released by Trolltech.

Cheers,
-jkt

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Andrey Grozin]

Jan Kundr?t wrote:
> Markus Meier wrote:
> > qt3support: Enable the Qt3Support libraries for Qt4
> While it affects a few "packages", they all are parts of the Qt toolkit (which we
> previously shipped in one big package). I can't see a scenario where this flag might be
> used on a package not released by Trolltech.
sci-visualization/qtiplot, for example

Andrey
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Jan Kundrát]

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Andrey Grozin wrote:
> sci-visualization/qtiplot, for example

I don't see a reference to the "qt3support" flag in any of qtiplot 
ebuilds, could you please clarify what you mean?

Cheers,
-jkt

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Andrey Grozin]

Jan Kundr?t wrote:
> I don't see a reference to the "qt3support" flag in any of qtiplot 
> ebuilds, could you please clarify what you mean?
I see, this thing has disappeared in recent versions... Sorry.

There was a period when qtiplot required qt4 emerged with qt3support USE 
flag. So, it had pkg_setup which checked this and produced an error it 
necessary.

qt3support was not a USE flag of qtiplot. So, I agree, there seems to be 
no reasons to make it a global USE flag.

Andrey
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Jan Kundrát]

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Andrey Grozin wrote:
> There was a period when qtiplot required qt4 emerged with qt3support USE 
> flag. So, it had pkg_setup which checked this and produced an error it 
> necessary.

Ah, that's quite common -- a package FooBar is ported to Qt4, but it 
still uses some of the Qt4's Qt3support classes. This is handled by 
FooBar depending on qt4 being built with that particular USE flag, not a 
"qt3support" in for the FooBar package itself, though.

Cheer,
-jkt

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[gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Markus Meier]

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local useflags with >= 5 appearances:
server                        16
logrotate                     12
gsm                           9
custom-cflags                 9
html                          7
multislot                     7
webkit                        7
audacious                     7
demo                          7
xft                           6
icu                           6
editor                        6
sound                         6
nautilus                      6
tools                         6
dbi                           6
qt3support                    6
dxr3                          6
music                         5
smtp                          5
irc                           5
mp4                           5
clisp                         5
spamassassin                  5
serial                        5
pango                         5
nfs                           5
midi                          5
pcsc-lite                     5
zvbi                          5
http                          5
web                           5
glade                         5


my proposals:

xft: Build with support for XFT font renderer (x11-libs/libXft)

icu: Enable ICU (Internationalization Components for Unicode) support,
using dev-libs/icu

And the special case, which probably needs some discussion is the gsm
flag. 7 out of 9 packages use it as a dep of media-sound/gsm, the
other two depend on sys-apps/pcsc-lite ("Add support for EAP-SIM
authentication algorithm").
The question is, whether we should create the global useflag for the
seven packages and leave the pcsc-lite packages as they are (as we
"allow" overriding since we have local useflag descriptions in
metadata.xml), or preferably rename the useflag for the two pcsc-lite
packages.
The global description for the media-sound/gsm packages would be
"Enables support for the gsm lossy speech compression codec via
media-sound/gsm".


Markus

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Markus Meier wrote:

> my proposals:

> xft: Build with support for XFT font renderer (x11-libs/libXft)

+1

BTW, why do we have a virtual/xft? Is this a leftover from the times
of monolithic X?

> And the special case, which probably needs some discussion is the
> gsm flag. 7 out of 9 packages use it as a dep of media-sound/gsm,
> the other two depend on sys-apps/pcsc-lite ("Add support for EAP-SIM
> authentication algorithm").
> The question is, whether we should create the global useflag for the
> seven packages and leave the pcsc-lite packages as they are (as we
> "allow" overriding since we have local useflag descriptions in
> metadata.xml), or preferably rename the useflag for the two
> pcsc-lite packages.

If the flags have completely different meanings, then they should have
different names.

Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Rémi Cardona]

Le 03/01/2009 18:57, Ulrich Mueller a écrit :
>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Markus Meier wrote:
>
>> my proposals:
>
>> xft: Build with support for XFT font renderer (x11-libs/libXft)
>
> +1
>
> BTW, why do we have a virtual/xft? Is this a leftover from the times
> of monolithic X?

I would say it was there for the transition to modular X. I'll go 
through the tree to get rid of it.

Thanks :)

Rémi

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Markus Meier]

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server                        15
custom-cflags                 10
logrotate                     9
gsm                           9
semantic-desktop              9
webkit                        8
html                          7
multislot                     7
nautilus                      7
audacious                     7
demo                          7
editor                        6
sound                         6
phonon                        6
tools                         6
pango                         6
dbi                           6
qt3support                    6
dxr3                          6
web                           6
net                           5
music                         5
smtp                          5
irc                           5
policykit                     5
mp4                           5
clisp                         5
spamassassin                  5
serial                        5
nfs                           5
midi                          5
pcsc-lite                     5
zvbi                          5
http                          5


proposals:

custom-cflags: Build with user-specified CFLAGS (unsupported)
as custom-cxxflags has been added (w/o discussion here)

semantic-desktop: Semantic desktop allows for storage of digital
information and its metadata to allow the user to express his personal
mental models, making all in formation become intuitively accessible

still pending is the global gsm useflag, no answer so far from the
mobile herd in bug #254677.


Markus

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Josh Sled]

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Markus Meier <maekke@gentoo.org> writes:
> semantic-desktop: Semantic desktop allows for storage of digital
> information and its metadata to allow the user to express his personal
> mental models, making all in formation become intuitively accessible

I find this description pretty content-free and hand-wavy.  I usually
care to know what the concrete effect of a use flag is, to know if it's
something I want to enable, in terms of features provided and the
dependencies implied.

To that end, please allow me to suggest:

"Cross-KDE support for file metadata indexing via nepomuk and soprano."

If you don't want to couple the message to those particular packages,
then maybe just reference the "NEPOMUK project" instead.

(Also, I note in passing the existing kde-base/pykde4 use.local.desc has
a tyop of "Nemomuk".)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Nirbheek Chauhan]

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Josh Sled <jsled@asynchronous.org> wrote:
> (Also, I note in passing the existing kde-base/pykde4 use.local.desc has
> a tyop of "Nemomuk".)
>

Oh, sweet irony :)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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Josh Sled wrote:
> Markus Meier <maekke@gentoo.org> writes:
>> semantic-desktop: Semantic desktop allows for storage of digital
>> information and its metadata to allow the user to express his personal
>> mental models, making all in formation become intuitively accessible
> 
> I find this description pretty content-free and hand-wavy.  I usually
> care to know what the concrete effect of a use flag is, to know if it's
> something I want to enable, in terms of features provided and the
> dependencies implied.
> 
> To that end, please allow me to suggest:
> 
> "Cross-KDE support for file metadata indexing via nepomuk and soprano."
> 
> If you don't want to couple the message to those particular packages,
> then maybe just reference the "NEPOMUK project" instead.
> 
> (Also, I note in passing the existing kde-base/pykde4 use.local.desc has
> a tyop of "Nemomuk".)

Fixed. Thanks for the heads up.


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Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / SPARC / KDE
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Maciej Mrozowski]

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On Tuesday 24 of February 2009 00:22:39 Josh Sled wrote:

> To that end, please allow me to suggest:
> "Cross-KDE support for file metadata indexing via nepomuk and soprano."
>
> If you don't want to couple the message to those particular packages,
> then maybe just reference the "NEPOMUK project" instead.

Then maybe:
"Cross-KDE support for semantic search and information retrieval."

As for particular packages, there are more of them (strigi is quite important 
for example), so maybe it's better to not specify any of them as suggested.

> (Also, I note in passing the existing kde-base/pykde4 use.local.desc has
> a tyop of "Nemomuk".)

Good catch, source of this issue was in metadata.xml in overlay.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global useflags

[Timothy Redaelli]

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Il martedì 24 febbraio 2009 00:00:26 Markus Meier ha scritto:
<cut>
> proposals:
>
> custom-cflags: Build with user-specified CFLAGS (unsupported)
> as custom-cxxflags has been added (w/o discussion here)
<cut>

I asked it some times ago [1].
I hope we can have custom-c{xx,}flags in global useflags soon

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46118

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