[gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Michael Stewart (vericgar)]

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The Gentoo Apache Team is pleased to announce the stabilizing of package
updates that have been in the works for over a year. Some of the major
changes include:

 - New configuration and configuration locations to more closely match
   upstream and reduce confusion for users coming from other
   distributions.
 - Modules now use a centralized eclass that builds, installs, and
   displays standard information on enabling the module. This allows
   easier maintenance of existing modules, and allows us to more rapidly
   develop ebuilds for modules that are not yet in the tree.
 - Expanded USE flags to let you choose which MPM is compiled.
 - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
   icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
   it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
   gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
   website there.
 - And much more, including the fixing of many many bugs.

These changes will stabilized on Sunday, September 18th. These changes
have been throughly tested and given a thumbs up by many many users.
They also allow you to use the new php (including support for php5)
ebuilds when they become fully available.

Because of these changes and improvements, when you upgrade to the new
revision of Apache, you will need to take care of some things. These are
fully documented in our Upgrading Apache document [1], but in
summary, this is what you will need to do:

 - Merge any customizations that you have made to the Apache
   configuration into the new configuration at /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
   (The configuration file location has changed). Note that the init
   script for apache checks for a configuration in the old location and
   refuses to start if you haven't moved/removed it - this is to avoid
   the possibility of moving to a configuration that isn't right for
   your machine.
 - Update any modules that you used to revisions that support the new
   eclass. Older modules will not work due to location changes.
 - Restart Apache

We have done our best to make it easy to migrate, but if you have
problems, feel free to visit us in #gentoo-apache on irc.freenode.net or
on our mailing list gentoo-web-user@gentoo.org and we'll be glad to
help.

Thanks,
The Gentoo Apache Team

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-upgrading.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Carsten Lohrke]

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On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
>  - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
>    icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
>    it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
>    gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
>    website there.

It's unfortunate that the apache herd decided to enable this by default - 
because you have no right to. We had a few treads about branding - and the 
outcome was always that the majority of devs was against any sort of it.

Probably something the council should decide about.


Carsten

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Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Jakub Moc]

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24.9.2005, 16:14:41, Carsten Lohrke wrote:

> On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
>>  - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
>>    icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
>>    it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
>>    gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
>>    website there.

> It's unfortunate that the apache herd decided to enable this by default - 
> because you have no right to. We had a few treads about branding - and the 
> outcome was always that the majority of devs was against any sort of it.

> Probably something the council should decide about.

I don't care about branding, but the no-htdocs thing makes me grumble, really.
Those flags are evil. :(

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Marcus D. Hanwell]

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On Saturday 24 September 2005 15:23, Jakub Moc wrote:
> 24.9.2005, 16:14:41, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
> >>  - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
> >>    icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
> >>    it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
> >>    gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
> >>    website there.
> >
> > It's unfortunate that the apache herd decided to enable this by default -
> > because you have no right to. We had a few treads about branding - and
> > the outcome was always that the majority of devs was against any sort of
> > it.
> >
> > Probably something the council should decide about.
>
> I don't care about branding, but the no-htdocs thing makes me grumble,
> really. Those flags are evil. :(

I really do think it should be a htdocs flag or something similar - you turn 
it on if you actually want it. It certainly shouldn't overwrite a users 
index.html by default.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Mike Frysinger]

On Saturday 24 September 2005 10:14 am, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
> >  - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
> >    icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
> >    it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
> >    gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
> >    website there.
>
> It's unfortunate that the apache herd decided to enable this by default -
> because you have no right to. We had a few treads about branding - and the
> outcome was always that the majority of devs was against any sort of it.

hmm i didnt realize this needed to be stated ... the default theme/whatever is 
always to be the same as what upstream uses
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Thierry Carrez]

Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
> 
>> - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
>>   icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
>>   it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
>>   gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
>>   website there.
> 
> It's unfortunate that the apache herd decided to enable this by default - 
> because you have no right to. We had a few treads about branding - and the 
> outcome was always that the majority of devs was against any sort of it.

Doesn't "This has been put in it's own package" mean that it's not on by
default ?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of new-style Apache

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 25 September 2005 04:30 am, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
> >> - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
> >>   icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
> >>   it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not install the
> >>   gentoo-webroot into /var/www/localhost - useful if you put your own
> >>   website there.
> >
> > It's unfortunate that the apache herd decided to enable this by default -
> > because you have no right to. We had a few treads about branding - and
> > the outcome was always that the majority of devs was against any sort of
> > it.
>
> Doesn't "This has been put in it's own package" mean that it's not on by
> default ?

apache hard-depends on gentoo-webroot-default which installs 
into /var/www/localhost

might as well be in the apache package itself as far as this topic is 
concerned
-mike
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