From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B7DF15806E for ; Tue, 16 May 2023 12:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C571E0895; Tue, 16 May 2023 12:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36501E0885 for ; Tue, 16 May 2023 12:16:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Sturmlechner To: gentoo-dev Cc: pr@gentoo.org, Andreas Sturmlechner Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item v2: Plasma Profile to switch on PipeWire, Wayland support Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 14:16:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4801800.GXAFRqVoOG@tuxbook> In-Reply-To: <5933809.lOV4Wx5bFT@tuxbook> References: <5933809.lOV4Wx5bFT@tuxbook> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1852178.tdWV9SEqCh"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 0590d898-94bd-4cf8-9945-126243bca114 X-Archives-Hash: 56f2dcdd8ef06b3e6f7805ea0bd6f816 --nextPart1852178.tdWV9SEqCh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Andreas Sturmlechner To: gentoo-dev Cc: pr@gentoo.org, Andreas Sturmlechner Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 14:16:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4801800.GXAFRqVoOG@tuxbook> In-Reply-To: <5933809.lOV4Wx5bFT@tuxbook> References: <5933809.lOV4Wx5bFT@tuxbook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Title: Plasma Profile to switch on PipeWire, Wayland support Author: Andreas Sturmlechner Posted: 2023-05-20 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma/systemd 1. PipeWire Gentoo's Plasma profile has not had any sound server enabled since the days of KDE's own aRts. As the way we output sound has changed dramatically in the years since - using wireless or often several devices, dynamically connected and shared between multiple systems, a modern desktop environment is expected to handle this effortlessly by default. This means the profile will enable both USE="pipewire,pulseaudio" globally, and enable media-video/pipewire[sound-server] to make it act as our PulseAudio server. User action required: - Check out what, if anything, you should configure to make PipeWire work for your purpose [1][2]. - For kde-apps/kmix users, a second sound mixer will appear in system tray: kde-plasma/plasma-pa as pulled in by kde-plasma/plasma-meta. Quit KMix and it will not re-appear on next startup. - If you want to keep your PulseAudio or ALSA-only setup, invert above USE flag settings globally, as needed. 2. Wayland Plasma Wayland support has come a long way and we consider it stable enough for daily use with a lot - if not all - systems, even if some known papercuts remain [3]. For those willing to switch it makes sense for Plasma profile to already provide sane settings. For everyone else it means only negligible impact in dependencies, as most of it was already inevitable with kde-plasma/plasma-desktop and its dependencies. Plasma profile will enable both USE="wayland,screencast" globally. The latter flag is tied to the video functionality of PipeWire, and e.g. used to 'cast' window content onto task managers' window previews. This is why PipeWire and Wayland enablement are happening at the same time. User action required: - If you want to keep your Pulseaudio or ALSA-only setup with Wayland, note that media-video/pipewire installation can not be avoided, but configuration not to act as a sound server is possible [1]. - None. No one will lose their X session, but will have the option to easily log into a working Wayland session instead. [1] https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-07-29-pipewire-sound-server.html [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire [3] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers --nextPart1852178.tdWV9SEqCh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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