Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-editors/leafpad: ChangeLog leafpad-0.8.14.ebuild

["Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <hkBst@gentoo.org>]

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Mike Frysinger wrote:
| On Sunday 30 March 2008, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
|>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote:
|>>> And IMHO the "emacs" USE flag should not be used here:
|>>>
|>>> $ ./configure -hs
|>>> Configuration of Leafpad 0.8.12:
|>>>
|>>> Optional Features:
|>>> [...]
|>>> --enable-emacs          implement Emacs key theme (experimental)
|>>>
|>>> $ equery uses =leafpad-0.8.12
|>>> [...]
|>>> + + emacs : Adds support for GNU Emacs
|>>>
|>>> As its description says, the flag is intended for GNU Emacs support
|>>> which is not the case here.
|>> i think the USE flag makes sense. perhaps the description should be
|>> changed.
|> Certainly a USE flag makes sense here, but it shouldn't be USE=emacs.
|>
|> The "emacs" global USE flag is used by 82 other packages (all outside
|> the app-emacs category). Its purpose is always that GNU Emacs specific
|> files are installed; either directly, or indirectly by pulling another
|> package via *DEPEND.
|
| why cant it mean both ?  USE flags are intended to control features, not
| dependencies.  often times that just happens to translate into dependencies.
| realistically though, anyone who wants "emacs" wants all emacs "things".  if
| it were to just pull in the emacs dependency, then that could just as easily
| be accomplished by `emerge emacs` and then we can drop the USE flag entirely.
| -mike

If this in an emacs thing, then I guess it includes its own emacs-compatible elisp
implementation with editor primitives exported to the user? Otherwise customizability is
something of a laugh. Keybindings can be rewired. Simply having the same default
keybindings as emacs does not make a package emacsy.

Seeing as this is an editor and a "GTK+ based simple text editor" I doubt it has much
claim to emacs-ness.

If my explanation doesn't make any sense to anyone, please trust our emacs team's
judgement in this.

Marijn

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<http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode
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