From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JdPA2-0000XZ-2r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:18:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B9C0E066E; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056D4E066E for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw.thefreemanclan.net ([72.81.14.60]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JY600JJPNN65JGA@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:21:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.thefreemanclan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9AC12419F for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:17:45 -0400 From: Richard Freeman Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why no updates on delay of 2008.0 release In-reply-to: <000701c88c89$db499560$91dcc020$@org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-id: <47E64A69.7090203@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200803211020.45551.roy@marples.name> <20080321103711.GA8418@gentoo.org> <200803211207.24347.roy@marples.name> <47E4DF2F.2030304@gentoo.org> <000701c88c89$db499560$91dcc020$@org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080301) X-Archives-Salt: 17c4cab4-4384-4b25-a33b-2576648a1a36 X-Archives-Hash: b3618a287b43ef737e0df3d8eace449f Chrissy Fullam wrote: > Somebody else wrote: >> ... I don't think there is any excuse not to update the published >> release schedule,... > the update is simple: the untimely and quite unexpected surgical > "complication" resulting in the death of my mother has set back a > number of schedules, Lesson: Ask nicely before going into attack mode. Don't assume the worst. Consequently, avoid putting foot in mouth... Try to remember that this is a volunteer-driven effort. If you want it to stay vibrant we need to try to be nice to each other. There have been many occasions where I've needed something from a gentoo dev - if you ask nicely there is a good chance you'll get it, and if you volunteer to help out in some way there is an even better chance. I was just browsing the net today looking for some options for a bootable linux CD that would turn a workstation into a dvdrip cluster node. Sadly I ran into several projects that would be almost exactly what I need, and most are dead for various reasons. Open source is something that needs to be nurtured, and if we don't want to write code the least we can do is offer a little help of some sort to somebody who does. No, that doesn't justify some of the more antisocial behavior some developers dump on users, but I think that Gentoo has managed to put some of that in the past (I've been impressed about how cordially some devs have been getting along in recent months). Sure, maybe some things could be improved. But, new blood is always welcome, and there are signs of new life springing up (recent talk about PMS progressing, innovations in the kde overlay, talk of openrc going mainstream, activity on the -nfp front, etc). Not that it ever really died in the first place, but I think that the future looks good for Gentoo. Let's just try not to stamp out the enthusiasm before it spreads a little more... :) -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list