From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZuH5-0004Bj-HP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:43:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 025ADE096D; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail45.e.nsc.no (mail45.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.45]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895C2E096D for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.nor.wtbts.org ([213.234.126.131]) by mail45.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m2DKh9oj028096 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:43:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.nor.wtbts.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nor.wtbts.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AB5E1F3A6D for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:43:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.24.78] (unknown [213.234.126.133]) by mail.nor.wtbts.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3052E136D76 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:43:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47D99234.6030200@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:44:36 +0100 From: Natanael Copa User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree References: <430880c50803121635g294f505av259707f7e6a746bb@mail.gmail.com> <1205415290.17945.19.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> <1205425423.7261.1.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: <1205425423.7261.1.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Archives-Salt: 852bf51e-c399-4b4f-9275-2852a6a64a2c X-Archives-Hash: 336d6afe79e510ad55d642f3eac16b61 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 14:34 +0100, Natanael Copa wrote: > >> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >> >> >>> I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me >>> a lot of headaches (along with localizations). >>> For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105 >>> >> I'm another distro builder that uses the Gentoo framework. I can only >> agree. I had to roll my own binary package format and after a short >> while I had to do the dependencies myself and just ignore RDEPEND since >> it was close to useless. >> > > I'm a distro builder, too, and I haven't been hitting any of these > problems. Would you care to point out the actual problems, or will the > "close to useless" comment be our only indication of the perceived > problems? > Regarding the RDPEND's, there is nothing in the framework protecting the RDEPENDS from be wrong. If its wrong, package still compiles and installs and (almost) everyone is happy. It pulls in unnecessary stuff but who cares? Disk space is cheap. So since I build a distro where size does matter (uclibc) I realised that even if I submit bugs for broken RDEPEND, there will never be an end to those bug reports. Looking at this thread, it seems i was right. That doesn't mean i dont submit bugreports. I do and I very often submit a patch. But there is a limit on how much you can fix in upstream before you need to go other ways. (That applies to fixing package splitting upstream as well btw...) -nc -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list