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From: Natanael Copa <natanael.copa@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:44:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D99234.6030200@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1205425423.7261.1.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org>

Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 14:34 +0100, Natanael Copa wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me
>>> a lot of headaches (along with localizations).
>>> For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105
>>>       
>> I'm another distro builder that uses the Gentoo framework. I can only
>> agree. I had to roll my own binary package format and after a short
>> while I had to do the dependencies myself and just ignore RDEPEND since
>> it was close to useless.
>>     
>
> I'm a distro builder, too, and I haven't been hitting any of these
> problems.  Would you care to point out the actual problems, or will the
> "close to useless" comment be our only indication of the perceived
> problems?
>   
Regarding the RDPEND's, there is nothing in the framework protecting the 
RDEPENDS from be wrong. If its wrong, package still compiles and 
installs and (almost) everyone is happy. It pulls in unnecessary stuff 
but who cares? Disk space is cheap.

So since I build a distro where size does matter (uclibc) I realised 
that even if I submit bugs for broken RDEPEND, there will never be an 
end to those bug reports. Looking at this thread, it seems i was right.

That doesn't mean i dont submit bugreports. I do and I very often submit 
a patch. But there is a limit on how much you can fix in upstream before 
you need to go other ways. (That applies to fixing package splitting 
upstream as well btw...)

-nc
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-13 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 23:35 [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-12 23:46 ` Jan Kundrát
2008-03-12 23:57   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13  2:36     ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-13  4:01       ` Alec Warner
2008-03-13 23:13         ` [gentoo-dev] RDEPEND=DEPEND (was: Help offered - Portage tree) Ciaran McCreesh
2008-03-16  6:41       ` [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree Luca Barbato
2008-03-13  7:33     ` Thilo Bangert
2008-03-13  9:24       ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 10:27         ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-13 12:53           ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:10             ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:27               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-03-13 16:22                 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 16:43                   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 17:42                     ` Rémi Cardona
2008-03-13 19:59                     ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-14 12:47                     ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2008-03-13 16:52                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 17:00                     ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:52               ` [gentoo-dev] " Petteri Räty
2008-03-13 14:06               ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-03-13 14:08               ` Ben de Groot
2008-03-13 16:00               ` Mark Loeser
2008-03-13 16:49               ` Jan Kundrát
2008-03-13 16:25             ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 23:07               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-03-13 19:45             ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-13 13:58         ` Steve Dibb
2008-03-13  7:01 ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-03-13 13:34 ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-13 13:42   ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-13 13:48     ` Rémi Cardona
2008-03-13 14:15       ` Caleb Tennis
2008-03-13 14:25         ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2008-03-13 15:19           ` Caleb Tennis
2008-03-13 14:27         ` Fabian Groffen
2008-03-13 15:14           ` Caleb Tennis
2008-03-13 16:39         ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 18:48           ` Caleb Tennis
2008-03-13 19:02             ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 15:31       ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-13 16:08         ` Rémi Cardona
2008-03-13 20:09           ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-13 15:23     ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-13 14:01   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-03-13 20:46     ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-13 16:23   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 16:48     ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 16:55       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 23:15         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-03-13 20:44     ` Natanael Copa [this message]
2008-03-13 21:02       ` Qian Qiao
2008-03-14  9:09       ` Jan Kundrát
2008-03-14 15:37         ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-16  7:13           ` Luca Barbato
2008-03-13 19:20 ` René 'Necoro' Neumann
2008-03-13 19:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-03-13 22:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " joshua jackson
2008-03-13 22:42   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 23:04     ` joshua jackson
2008-03-13 23:11       ` Fabio Erculiani

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