From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-39952-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1NpNfS-0003PU-Fp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:17:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AABD2E0CDD; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f215.google.com (mail-fx0-f215.google.com [209.85.220.215]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD8BE0CD8 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so750539fxm.26 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:17:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KEl2cYOM1ChoXuw/qLyZGO94cBbuRRvgvqEj26DLJQk=; b=EqM+T5RJprJM2BGwb+AVtTOQ8o3dQAGx3WyCAFNYElwIvVUudA2Kn3Gg0CNrH9pxJK uFL8KofYHfKZ5kZCuNjx4aMPQ1YSrRLj9/OgyoVd5f5xmPD0H9AUdBxycC0uXThohtOf p3ugPb243R6H7X/XypJeoh3+quhlUf/y7IEuc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vToZPaDowLZrmlMlL0vd8lyK6sZ+d8wFFXUxkYAC0Wyt4eldykSn5A3qxvnYKOFXYh zqT4KcHG1eJKXlJRvZgJdwEv+DnRlZ9P2s4Cf/v4CFqg7CbwsQBHEhyAF7ft4GUp80Vt KfrIACtjeBo+ZyX++9C5qKdrQ/6BkmCUjxymY= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: unhollow@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.7.11 with SMTP id b11mr1680290fab.95.1268234262143; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:17:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003101609.27337.reavertm@gmail.com> References: <4B97125C.6050601@gentoo.org> <477338b91003092252u4ed393dj483d4f2f7d9a526c@mail.gmail.com> <201003101609.27337.reavertm@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:17:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 93a17fc713a7ed43 Message-ID: <477338b91003100717q1d2e0e4cv4c13c8c6bad2baa7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] webapp-config needs a new maintainer From: =?UTF-8?Q?Benedikt_B=C3=B6hm?= <hollow@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: dec29224-42fc-4723-86d7-372c2ced24eb X-Archives-Hash: 0ab3b78b0c2b82d0f44f8c1398356f71 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@gmail.com> wrot= e: > On Wednesday 10 of March 2010 07:52:28 Benedikt B=C3=B6hm wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wr= ote: >> > There are quite a few bugs open for it plus the latest version (1.50.1= 8) >> > is not even in Gentoo but on SourceForge only. >> >> The release on sourceforge is not compatible with the current >> implementation in Gentoo AFAIK. >> >> webapp-config is in a horrible shape and also has several design >> flaws. i wouldn't touch it. that's why i already added an idea to the >> GSoC list for a complete w-c rewrite. i talked to gunnar in 2008 or >> 2009 at chemnitz linux days, and we agreed that w-c needs a rewrite. >> but none of us had/has time to do it. hopefully gsoc can change this >> situation. > > This issue always bothered me. Why do we need exclusive web-app config > application that effectively mirrors what emerge is supposed to do? as you obviously figured the replicated package manager behaviour is for installing apps into multiple vhosts. at first i thought this was a nice idea, but after some time managing webapps with w-c, i really hate it and install most things manually nowadays ;-) > Don't bash me, maybe I'm obviously missing something but I'd really prefe= r > simpler, Debian-like approach to webapps, so: > - web-apps installed in /usr/share instead of /var/www (is there any bene= fit > from polluting /var/www with system-managed applications?) > - webapp-specific apache config installed in let's say /etc/apache2/conf.= d/ > and included from httpd.conf so that any application works out of the box > (Alias directive may be suitable in example below) i am in favour of debian-like approach too, but i think there are people relying on the w-c approach now, so an optimal solution would be to just make webapp-config optional, but this may be an impossible task, i don't really know. Bene