From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J67wt-0002nR-Cf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:15:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lBMHEMNG030645; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:14:22 GMT Received: from tenor.i-cable.com (tenor.i-cable.com [203.83.115.107]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lBMHCU4Y028296 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:12:31 GMT Received: (qmail 11173 invoked by uid 508); 22 Dec 2007 17:12:27 -0000 Received: from 203.83.114.122 by tenor (envelope-from , uid 505) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.90.3/4559. Clear:RC:1(203.83.114.122):. Processed in 0.229158 secs); 22 Dec 2007 17:12:27 -0000 Received: from ip114122.hkicable.com (HELO xenon.i-cable.com) (203.83.114.122) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Dec 2007 17:12:26 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cm222-167-208-85.hkcable.com.hk [222.167.208.85]) by xenon.i-cable.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id lBMHCQS0001866 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:12:26 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <476D4606.4000305@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:14:46 +0800 From: Zhang Le User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071123) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) References: <200712172320.01988.peper@gentoo.org> <20071220111216.06a06488@blueyonder.co.uk> <476AB482.5040901@gentoo.org> <200712211334.18423.peper@gentoo.org> <476CC637.9030709@gentoo.org> <20071222081101.6e94e0ee@blueyonder.co.uk> <476CD1B4.6070408@gentoo.org> <20071222115324.GB4937@ferdyx.org> In-Reply-To: <20071222115324.GB4937@ferdyx.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=1E4E2973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ac2c3a14-c809-4ada-b299-dadadb65d36d X-Archives-Hash: 71ae80e7fcacf747c38e2bedba6490df Fernando J. Pereda wrote: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 04:58:28PM +0800, Zhang Le wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:09:27 +0800 >>> Zhang Le wrote: >>>> IMHO, what is more ridiculous is keeping ask other to be quiet in a >>>> discussion which is supposed to be open to everyone who cares about >>>> it. >>> It's open to anyone who cares about it and is knowledgeable enough to >>> provide informed commentary. Anything else is just noise. >> At least not to tell others to be quiet. >> It is a discussion after all. >> We can let them become knowledgeable, at least we should try. > > Heh... unfortunately this is gentoo and this behaviour is tolerated. Try > to go with this same thing to the lkml[*1*]. Ask them to teach you C so > you can contribute with your opinion to every single patch and design > decision that is made. Then tell them they should teach you stuff about > OS design because you _are_entitled_ an opinion, then .... [then, sane > people see how this approach gets silly] I have mailed my patch to LKML. So I know the situation there. Linux kernel community has a kernelnewbie mailing list. But we don't have one. We don't even have enough docs to educate our future potential package manager maintainer. Note I am not blaming anyone there. Let's start from ourselves. -- Zhang Le, Robert GPG key ID: 1E4E2973 Fingerprint: 0260 C902 B8F8 6506 6586 2B90 BC51 C808 1E4E 2973 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list