From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAc2A-0008NS-J1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:39:27 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6H1cVGf017289; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:38:31 GMT Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6H1Z0mt011477 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:35:00 GMT Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so53921ugf for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:35:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F04H/kCnKIC42mJ7fD2v63QWrCyAKCvQ3SQpNLS+XrkWMZbw4luVZB18RTbUft9j2yDgvB/yX9WRiS/gNWTwkJh8pHKKlq/YmrzrOeALChjxwQPrjM8WXfw1NNq4rqHyy6LgSqUZAO7d4TMUdFHXTJXUSeAThMjJ+6LfGueuWnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tfhx/sgS+47hRN4svfsvFzlO/iOcRVx6D1xx8+0SvzLWKdEoR0Txy09KXPn5wwqZqImk4iPm6xsL2CGIKjfIUp9I8nU3ojhuGsCKuFTsYXoCiSPI1LqYXK23EYK1LLeUsZGnr2OzkZkweFQ8GbrYODj8Rxphdxuk8sh5xOt+0rQ= Received: by 10.66.217.5 with SMTP id p5mr202899ugg.1184636100715; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.78? ( [81.79.237.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c25sm43519409ika.2007.07.16.18.34.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <469C1CC3.8000609@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:34:59 +0100 From: George Prowse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> <469A9DD4.7090407@gentoo.org> <469AE28A.3050700@burnieanglican.org.au> <1184623580.7942.6.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <469BF196.3040206@gmail.com> <1184627366.7942.51.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6e22466d-a4e8-4b22-8f02-0375559f673e X-Archives-Hash: 487b5f31cb76553e4cb4faf4f07dc04a Chrissy Fullam wrote: > Could we try to keep this thread, and all the similarly named ones, on > topic? The pointing fingers, trash talking, etc is not furthering anything. > If you don't like councils opinion, or someone elses opinion, well respect > them enough to allow them their own opinion. > The real topic at hand is about this mailing list and the proposed changes. > If you don't like those proposed changes, please think it through and make > alternative suggestions. > > The original proposed idea: > * Make -dev a moderated mailing list, imposing a delay on all emails sent by > non-developers and adding devs to that same list as needed. All emails > should be of a development nature and should stay on topic. Devs retain the > right to discard moderated emails if they are off topic or inappropriate. > Devs found to be abusing this privilege would undergo review by devrel for > further action. Devs would be required to be on this list. > * Make a new mailing list for the off topic conversations to go to. Not a > requirement for devs to join but a place to continue on a topic that really > isnt development related. > > I really don't think anyone on council honestly believes that there are no > good alternative ideas out there so the we as the community need to come up > with those alternatives. > Stopping or postponing technical posts on -dev will always be counter productive. Just create a topic in another list (-politics sounds a good one), forward all further responses there and if necessary create a new post to -dev to carry on the original discussion. The people involved in the -politics discussion can then carry it on somewhere else. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list