From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAZAE-0001dw-1l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:35:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6GMXl2e031607; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:33:47 GMT Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6GMUlw6027775 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:30:48 GMT Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so27083ugf for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z7DKiyGl99NzK4F/BhWCTirgGzA4RzzhEfHG2thhgKAEMzeUJUVKiWrcoSWhGdMSdCpqzXR6nFR3HM4AEGU1XmKf/DiYbsW4Clh9oYOrx1poTps8cSswDf+T+EQbRVrUix/aMJ7kdS1YG9I7tKoMJhqucTO1FotEBtf4ZVqG+Mg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S9zKnvXWQlQh+wu5oJS8DvEjTqqRVlAg411Z+/rL1fjncBVFPFawFBHroB33z65S0V+mY4nFfycS76dlqxSBZBi+CfeOr8A7qYScoYSSbtz1gFrybpD13EDEH6ZycXC6ilbAJsfm3SL7JETW+BZie1VCH5unY/7EJGX/mhQtxWs= Received: by 10.66.222.19 with SMTP id u19mr84146ugg.1184625047221; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.78? ( [81.79.237.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b30sm46725115ika.2007.07.16.15.30.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <469BF196.3040206@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:30:46 +0100 From: George Prowse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> <469A9DD4.7090407@gentoo.org> <469AE28A.3050700@burnieanglican.org.au> <1184623580.7942.6.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: <1184623580.7942.6.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b81b1963-2d92-4ee9-9f28-1690432dfaef X-Archives-Hash: f2b5bec2da9833224bea67d9af4c2bf9 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 13:14 +1000, Will Briggs wrote: >> Oh dear. "slight delay" in an email list forum? That's like saying >> "you can take part in this face-to-face conversation but you have to >> wait 30 seconds before you can say anything" In effect you reduce that >> person to an on-looker who can throw in the occassional comment. The >> comments themselves are reduced in their relevance or impact because by >> the time they are heard, the conversation has moved on. > > On a mailing list? > > We're not talking IRC here. We're talking mailing lists. > > I can take a nap, a full 8 hour sleep, or many times even take the > WEEKEND OFF FROM GENTOO and still manage to come back and give useful > input. Email isn't exactly instant and nobody who runs a mail server > will even pretend that it is. Adding a, say, 3 hour delay between > posting and the timeout, doesn't seem to me like it would affect much of > anything. After all, I managed to not touch my email since Friday and I > am still managing to participate in this conversation. > This is going to crash and burn but wouldn't it be an ideal job description for the proctors? Instead of telling people off they could just stop people posting. That way you dont even get to know that they are even there. Seeing as most of them are forum mods there could even be a "why was I blocked?" thread in Feedback... Their decision to forward emails to a -politics (or whatever it was) ML would be a great one -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list