From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAVAh-0003jD-R9 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:19:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6GIIoFA007788; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:18:50 GMT Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6GIGuFk005471 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:16:56 GMT Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so1158361ugf for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fA1f70gMHeWpAJb8k6/kL/yR7tCj5VhvE0jV6g/Eeo/JJRX7fhkdzGFaS5mRMZDvuc5wzFAA2IBFBmvNFRKKu2r4bNJ37ocmaZHSt/M4t3vwoMXBFyjn3rrMO+yS9ZzUN6TqE4VH8MpGKzeRZmmTQJPu2BwN7UmsqcNs5TD4i4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jSt8NbcLiEdsE+4oJiraEmdwioIFFtU9fIRbaDbx+kxxUzA1peFb8GKrBsw5XaobjHQSX2UDi9pwU/COEIM5u8nB0UfxjVC3LsjUCX16ex7veit4qlg+gM5WLH7tceBE0Aen0djC6431ge3XgZ9udoNTPFFbFBfNwpkKAX1i23M= Received: by 10.67.24.18 with SMTP id b18mr4468854ugj.1184609816160; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.78? ( [81.79.237.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d26sm29445079nfh.2007.07.16.11.16.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <469BB60D.1030201@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:16:45 +0100 From: George Prowse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> <469B0DC2.2070903@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <469B0DC2.2070903@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: af09f0da-c2a6-4b7b-87ba-a0e07895af95 X-Archives-Hash: 52dd386fdc82f2be8054a60b66b4b710 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Matthias Langer wrote: > >> no offense, but this is one of the worst proposals i've ever read on >> this list; why? because, one of gentoo's major problems is that it is >> becoming more and more a toy exclusively for its own developers. >> > > Gentoo's always been exclusively for the developers. Nobody's paying us > to do this. It just so happens that the things we want to do also > benefit other people, and so they use them. > > That is possibly the most pathetic, misjudged and harmful (to Gentoo) post I have ever read. You should be ashamed. Just because developers develop because they want to doesn't mean they dont want to be part of a community, if that wasn't the case then none of the current developers would have originally been part of the userbase to begin with. Gentoo is becoming a joke, how many more developers have to leave? How many more harmful articles will it take? Users have left in droves and you seem to be becoming more and more insular the worse it gets. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list