From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAP3g-0001jo-K4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:48:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6GBlDBE007564; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:47:13 GMT Received: from agaffney.org (68-188-61-127.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [68.188.61.127]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6GBjKTg005340 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:45:20 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.10] (kagome [192.168.0.10]) by agaffney.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD431E012F for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:45:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <469B5A4E.7090406@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:45:18 -0500 From: Andrew Gaffney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070617) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> <469B0DC2.2070903@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <469B0DC2.2070903@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 80aba967-45d1-4af6-888d-6ab0d3adc4e9 X-Archives-Hash: 216ab67cc69ca86e540f86faa0c23ff4 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Matthias Langer wrote: >> no offense, but this is one of the worst proposals i've ever read on >> this list; why? because, one of gentoo's major problems is that it is >> becoming more and more a toy exclusively for its own developers. > > Gentoo's always been exclusively for the developers. Nobody's paying us > to do this. It just so happens that the things we want to do also > benefit other people, and so they use them. That was my thought as well. We (the developers) owe nothing to the community at large. We are volunteers, and if we want to treat Gentoo as our own personal toy (which we currently aren't), then so be it. -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Catalyst/Installer + x86 release coordinator -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list