From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IACVT-0002np-TT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:24:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6FMN4HF015228; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:23:04 GMT Received: from creativecommunications.com (creativecommunications.com [65.17.124.162]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6FMLEjF013032 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:21:14 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by creativecommunications.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17DB68C03F for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:21:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at creativecommunications.com Received: from creativecommunications.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (creativecommunications.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E+xtbSNR40Ai for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:21:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.1.80] (unknown [192.168.1.80]) by creativecommunications.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B6168C03D for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:21:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <469A9DD4.7090407@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:21:08 -0500 From: Andrew Gaffney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070616) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> In-Reply-To: <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a89847e9-856f-49f3-97b0-86c01b9218a8 X-Archives-Hash: 5456d88bd698bcdfcdd2b819bfe99907 Matthias Langer wrote: > by banning non-dev contributors from this list some of you may feel better > - but gentoo as a whole will probably suffer. silencing people doesn't > make their opinions invalid. I keep seeing this argument over and over again. Many people are just completely misunderstanding. This is not a blanket silencing of any non-dev on the list. This is simply delaying the posting of messages from non-devs (and even devs that have "improperly" moderated in the past). If nobody moderates a particular message to the list within a set amount of time, the message passes through. Making the list "moderated" isn't the same as making a channel moderated on IRC. Anyone will still be able to speak, just with a slight delay, which allows us to maintain a good signal-to-noise ratio, and hopefully prevent re-occurrences of some of the nastier flamewars we've seen on the list lately. -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Catalyst/Installer + x86 release coordinator -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list