From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9vGJ-0000nI-Hy for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:59:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6F3wGbk025460; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:58:16 GMT Received: from smtp131.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp131.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.131]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6F3uNpd023198 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:56:23 GMT Received: by relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: ddrake-AT-brontes3d.com) with ESMTP id EB3B545865B for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46999A84.10101@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:54:44 -0400 From: Daniel Drake User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070618) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 46fce364-98e1-4b1b-a96e-b9754cbcbec9 X-Archives-Hash: e159aea96c9e4ea3db0d915865f31a0a Mike Doty wrote: > All- > > We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only > devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who moderate in > bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the > gentoo-project list will be created to take over what -dev frequently becomes. > there is no requirement to be on this new list. I'm not keen on this idea. I like the "traditional" unmoderated mailing list scheme used in open source projects everywhere, including this one at present. The Gentoo development community is much more closed than the development communities of most other open source projects (for good reasons), and I wouldn't like to see it close up further. Moderation would be used to exclude certain discussion, but the real solution for that is just to teach people to ignore the idiots. (yep, not easy in some cases!) I'm also not sure that the proposal solves any problems -- I glanced over the last few weeks of mail and didn't see any that I would reject from a moderation queue. I do like the "gentoo-politics" idea that came up a few weeks ago, which was to move politics off gentoo-dev and to another list, but I'd view it from another perspective (and avoid the words 'politics'): make gentoo-dev for development topics only, and have another list for the rest. But, I suspect we'd come back to the same problem on both lists, where some people are too keen to talk and deviate too far away from technical discussion. Daniel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list