From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9BeL-0007aU-DY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:16:57 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6D3Fhod019402; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:15:43 GMT Received: from barmail1.idig.net (barmail1.idig.net [64.34.111.254]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6D3DmxZ017099 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:13:48 GMT Received: from nweb1.idig.net (nweb1.idig.net [216.187.70.70]) by barmail1.idig.net (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id 84E5C7CC9C1 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blk-138-49-15.eastlink.ca ([24.138.49.15] helo=lacqui.lacqui.com) by nweb1.idig.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I9BbF-0001n7-KN for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:13:48 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lacqui.lacqui.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C566C6C008D for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:13:38 -0300 (ADT) Message-ID: <4696EDDD.6060904@lacqui.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:13:33 -0300 From: Kevin Lacquement User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070711) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <4696DC92.2010602@gentoo.org> <4696E3CE.50206@lacqui.com> <4696EC3F.9000502@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4696EC3F.9000502@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nweb1.idig.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - lacqui.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Archives-Salt: ac644967-0f7d-44a4-8898-3afe5506df4c X-Archives-Hash: f9257afd19929a9bd276a2f567212573 Kumba wrote: > > >> Here's where we want the non-devs to get access. After all, not all >> development and debugging is done by devs. All the current devs were, >> at one point, users. Where did they get their start? My bet is they >> entered via the -dev mailing list, learned the ropes here, and >> eventually earned their dev status. If the -dev list is closed, where >> do the new dev-wannabes learn the ropes and get their voices heard? > > You missed the small mention of "open" in my first sentence. I probably > should have clarified what my definition of what "open" is, but it > pretty much means no moderation on the -dev list so that users and > developers could post. > Sorry, I should have made it clear - I was agreeing with you there. I'm not a -dev yet, but if I continue to have the time to work towards it, I don't want to be blocked because someone decided that users couldn't give insights to the developers list. Kevin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list