From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I1UTH-0003Z6-7R for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:45:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l5LLhMtN013486; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:43:22 GMT Received: from shadow.wildlava.net (shadow.wildlava.net [67.40.138.81]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l5LLcUCW004132 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:38:31 GMT Received: from [67.40.138.82] (crater.wildlava.net [67.40.138.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shadow.wildlava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2038F41F for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <467AEFD4.6060306@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:38:28 -0600 From: Joe Peterson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070616) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list References: <20070621140907.1a2e4c2b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070621140907.1a2e4c2b@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1268ab19-49a7-4992-a451-80af9819f053 X-Archives-Hash: 7b6fe72766b3175cfab9f09f49492879 This sounds promising. One problem I see, however, is that this would require announcements to get posted to *both* lists and for people to remember this rule. Posting only to "-dev", of course, makes sense, but posting only to "-dev-announce" would cause strangeness (as all devs who want more mail would miss these mails and end up *not* getting all of the mail). There are two ways around this: 1) Make -dev-announce an umbrella list that always goes to both lists (this can be done by having two sublists - each dev subscribes to one or the other, depending on preference, but not directly to -dev-announce; or it can be done by having -dev-announce include the "gentoo-dev@gentoo.org" address plus the individuals who only want announcements). 2) Mailman has a feature called "topics". It can be set up so that each subscriber can set whether they want to only get announcements or get all messages. Posters wanting to hit everyone put a keyword in the subject like "Announce:" Not sure if the mlm users here has such a feature. I've done it both ways, and there are pros and cons. Just be wary of having the requirement that announcements are sent to both lists by the sender in order for the system to work right. -Joe . Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm back for my yearly posting about creating a gentoo-dev-announce > list [1]. Fedora recently created a fedora-devel-announce list with a > great description of how it works, what's posted to it, etc [2], which > got me excited about making this happen in Gentoo. > > Last time the issue came up, numerous people supported it, but nobody > followed through to get the list created. This time, I'm going to file > a bug to the infra team to make it happen. > > What's this mean for you? If you want to ignore -dev, you can just > subscribe to -dev-announce. But you will lose your ability to > participate in discussions leading toward decisions. If you have an > announcement relevant to development, post it to both -dev > and -dev-announce. Replies will go only to -dev. > > Thanks, > Donnie > > 1. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_136761.xml > 2. > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2007-June/msg00000.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list