From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy3w2-0006I2-Rj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:49:15 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l5CAkw1G018155; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:46:58 GMT Received: from smtp-out3.libero.it (smtp-out3.libero.it [212.52.84.43]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l5CAj5v9015889 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:45:05 GMT Received: from localhost (172.31.0.45) by smtp-out3.libero.it (7.3.120) id 4611FE5E04C1CC2F for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:45:04 +0200 X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Received: from smtp-out4.libero.it ([172.31.0.40]) by localhost (asav-out4.libero.it [192.168.32.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95TZ5ow03vzl for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:45:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (151.43.234.61) by smtp-out4.libero.it (7.3.120) id 4611FEBC0524A25F for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:45:04 +0200 Message-ID: <466E79EB.1030208@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:48:11 +0200 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070607) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree References: <20070612100139.GA4738@ferdyx.org> <466E772F.6010807@thefreemanclan.net> In-Reply-To: <466E772F.6010807@thefreemanclan.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7203a6d6-0dd6-4773-bd24-9a98c9155d7c X-Archives-Hash: 8d663cc6dd719d7f7b4465abe8fd8659 Richard Freeman wrote: > Can you clarify this? What scenarios do you run into where it isn't > good for stable users to have access to more than one version of the > software? - Security issues. - "Downgrade to hell" scenarios - Other colorful issues that may happen from time to time. > > One thing that I noticed is that in many cases there are multiple > testing versions of a package available, and one stable version. So, if > you run unstable you can pick and choose, but if you're running stable > (which in theory should be the target audience gentoo aims for) then you > get your choice of only one. The stable one is supposed to be the best available, the ~ ones are supposed to be "in flux" > > I tend to think that unless something unusual is going on that old > packages should be kept around for a while (a few weeks at least). Happens more than often =) > Others have pointed out that inflexible rules aren't always the answer. > I'd agree in general, but there should be guidelines. Maybe certain > packages shouldn't have multiple stable versions to choose from. But > when "certain packages" becomes 80% of them then I'd wonder if there > really is a good reason for this... Keep in mind that the trade off is : - our time - our sanity - what provide to our used - the quality of what we provide to out users. We all try our best to not burn out while serving you the best we could think. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list