* [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
@ 2007-06-10 23:41 Thilo Bangert
2007-06-11 5:55 ` Rémi Cardona
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From: Thilo Bangert @ 2007-06-10 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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Hi all,
welcome to the second issue of the irregular metadata.xml check.
Did you know that only 16% of all packages in the tree do not belong to
any herd (ie. <herd>no-herd</herd>). Nevertheless, as no-herd is not a
nice place to be, perhaps your herd can adopt a package or two. If you
get really lucky you even get a dev with the deal - for free!
Herds with no email
===================
As robbat2 points out, in order to allow for automatic bug assignment all
herds need to have an email address. The following herds do not have an
email address specified in herds.xml.
herd without email: comm-fax
herd without email: dev-tools
herd without email: haskell
herd without email: common-lisp
herd without email: secure-tunneling
herd without email: ia64-kernel
herd without email: middle-east
herd without email: arm
herd without email: lang-misc
herd without email: s390
herd without email: sh
Statistics
==============================================
Total number of packages: 11684
metadata.xml missing 0
<herd> missing 2
<herd> empty 0
<herd> unknown 0
<herd>=no-herd 1887
<maintainer> missing 6611
<maintainer> retired 0
<maintainer> is a herd 1300
<maintainer> unknown 201
<maintainer>=maintainer-needed 438
Proxy maintainer without gentoo association 13
Unmaintained packages 602
As always, the full metadata-check.log is available from [1].
The script used to generate the log can be found at [2].
Feedback welcome.
Kind regards
Thilo
[1] Full metadata-check.log
http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/metadata-check.log
[2] Metadata checking script.
http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/bangert/browser/scripts/check-metadata.rb
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@ 2009-12-07 11:56 Thilo Bangert
2009-12-07 12:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-07 17:04 ` Hans de Graaff
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From: Thilo Bangert @ 2009-12-07 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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Welcome to this years edition of the metadata check.
Todays fingerpointing
herd without email: secure-tunneling
herd without email: middle-east
app-admin/eselect-audicle <herd> empty
app-admin/eselect-chuck <herd> empty
app-admin/eselect-miniaudicle <herd> empty
app-admin/eselect-sndpeek <herd> empty
net-im/minbif <herd> empty
sys-kernel/dracut <herd> empty
x11-libs/libvdpau <herd> empty
x11-misc/vdpauinfo <herd> empty
virtual/perl-Filter <herd> empty
virtual/perl-i18n-langtags <herd> empty
virtual/perl-Package-Constants <herd> empty
virtual/perl-parent <herd> empty
virtual/perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta <herd> empty
app-office/homebank <herd> missing
dev-libs/faxpp <herd> missing
dev-libs/librelp <herd> missing
dev-libs/ossp-uuid <herd> missing
dev-util/cucumber <herd> missing
dev-util/hg-git <herd> missing
games-rpg/sacred-gold <herd> missing
gnome-extra/gnome-color-chooser <herd> missing
media-gfx/engauge <herd> missing
media-gfx/greycstoration <herd> missing
media-plugins/gimp-greycstoration <herd> missing
net-dialup/dgcmodem <herd> missing
net-irc/irssi-xmpp <herd> missing
net-libs/udns <herd> missing
net-misc/openswan <herd> missing
sys-apps/edac-utils <herd> missing
Statistics
==================================================================
Total number of packages: 13623
metadata.xml missing 0
<herd> missing 16
<herd> empty 13
<herd> unknown 0
<herd>=no-herd 1999
<maintainer> missing 8383
<maintainer> retired 0
<maintainer> is a herd 1187
<maintainer> unknown 203
<maintainer>=maintainer-needed 715
Proxy maintainer without gentoo association 10
Unmaintained packages 731
You will find the complete log at [1].
The script that generated above logfile can be found at [2].
As usual, feedback is highly appreciated.
Warm regards
Thilo
[1] Full metadata-check.log
http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/metadata-check.log
[2] Metadata checking script.
http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/bangert/browser/scripts/check-metadata.rb
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2009-12-07 11:56 Thilo Bangert
@ 2009-12-07 12:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-07 13:20 ` Thilo Bangert
2009-12-07 17:04 ` Hans de Graaff
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From: Ulrich Mueller @ 2009-12-07 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Welcome to this years edition of the metadata check.
> [...]
> You will find the complete log at [1].
Hmm, eselect is not known:
| unknown maintainer: eselect@gentoo.org
But it's in good company:
| unknown maintainer: catalyst@gentoo.org
| unknown maintainer: dev-portage@gentoo.org
| unknown maintainer: genkernel@gentoo.org
| unknown maintainer: gnap@gentoo.org
| unknown maintainer: portage-utils@gentoo.org
| unknown maintainer: sandbox@gentoo.org
> As usual, feedback is highly appreciated.
Could you make your script recognise Gentoo hosted projects as valid
maintainers?
Ulrich
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2009-12-07 11:56 Thilo Bangert
2009-12-07 12:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
@ 2009-12-07 17:04 ` Hans de Graaff
2009-12-07 20:20 ` Thilo Bangert
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From: Hans de Graaff @ 2009-12-07 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 12:56 +0100, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Welcome to this years edition of the metadata check.
> dev-util/cucumber <herd> missing
Fixed, but this is really a bug in metadata.dtd, which specifies
<!ELEMENT pkgmetadata ( (herd|maintainer|longdescription|use|
upstream)* )>
That should probably be:
<!ELEMENT pkgmetadata ( (herd)+ (maintainer|longdescription|use|
upstream)* )>
Kind regards,
Hans
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* [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
@ 2007-05-23 17:49 Thilo Bangert
2007-05-23 18:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-05-23 21:19 ` Robin H. Johnson
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From: Thilo Bangert @ 2007-05-23 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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Hi all,
welcome to the IMC - irregular metdata.xml check, issue 1.
As can be seen from the statistcis below, the herd tags have been fixed.
Thanks to those who have helped with the cleanup.
Whats next?
==========
The current policy in the devmanual demands a maintainer tag -
nevertheless half the tree is without it.
The policy should perhaps be changed to reflect the reality.
Also, many ebuilds put the herds email address as an additional
<maintainer>. This is simply redundant and unless complaints are raised,
all herd <maintainer> tags will be removed and replaced by the
appropriate <herd> tag instead. Work on this will start over the weekend.
Statistics
=================================
Total number of packages: 11701
metadata.xml missing 0
<herd> missing 0
<herd> empty 0
<herd> unknown 0
<herd>=no-herd 1880
<maintainer> missing 6616
<maintainer> retired 0
<maintainer> is a herd 1306
<maintainer> unknown 193
<maintainer>=maintainer-needed 438
Proxy maintainer without gentoo association 11
Unmaintained packages 596
The full metadata-check.log is available from:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/metadata-check.log
The script used to generate the log can be found here:
http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/bangert/browser/scripts/check-metadata.rb
Feedback welcome.
Kind regards
Thilo
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2007-05-23 17:49 Thilo Bangert
@ 2007-05-23 18:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-05-23 19:01 ` Timothy Redaelli
2007-05-23 21:19 ` Robin H. Johnson
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From: Chris Gianelloni @ 2007-05-23 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 19:49 +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Also, many ebuilds put the herds email address as an additional
> <maintainer>. This is simply redundant and unless complaints are raised,
> all herd <maintainer> tags will be removed and replaced by the
> appropriate <herd> tag instead. Work on this will start over the weekend.
Remember that some do this legitimately. If the herd is, for example,
"portage" but the email/bugzilla address is dev-portage@gentoo.org then
I think it is a good idea to leave the maintainer tag alone. Remember
that this is an example and isn't what is actually in the tree. I just
used it as a simple example. The point is that in cases where the herd
name doesn't equal the email address used for that herd, the maintainer
tag should probably be filled in with the proper email address.
--
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2007-05-23 18:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
@ 2007-05-23 19:01 ` Timothy Redaelli
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From: Timothy Redaelli @ 2007-05-23 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Alle mercoledì 23 maggio 2007, Chris Gianelloni ha scritto:
> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 19:49 +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> > Also, many ebuilds put the herds email address as an additional
> > <maintainer>. This is simply redundant and unless complaints are raised,
> > all herd <maintainer> tags will be removed and replaced by the
> > appropriate <herd> tag instead. Work on this will start over the weekend.
>
> Remember that some do this legitimately. If the herd is, for example,
> "portage" but the email/bugzilla address is dev-portage@gentoo.org then
> I think it is a good idea to leave the maintainer tag alone. Remember
> that this is an example and isn't what is actually in the tree. I just
> used it as a simple example. The point is that in cases where the herd
> name doesn't equal the email address used for that herd, the maintainer
> tag should probably be filled in with the proper email address.
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48485
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FreeSBIE Developer, Gentoo Developer, GUFI Staff
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2007-05-23 17:49 Thilo Bangert
2007-05-23 18:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
@ 2007-05-23 21:19 ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-05-27 12:17 ` Thilo Bangert
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From: Robin H. Johnson @ 2007-05-23 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:49:43PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Also, many ebuilds put the herds email address as an additional
> <maintainer>. This is simply redundant and unless complaints are raised,
> all herd <maintainer> tags will be removed and replaced by the
> appropriate <herd> tag instead. Work on this will start over the weekend.
No.
See the thread about automatic assignment for more about this.
More importantly, once the automatic stuff goes into play, the existence
of the herd tag will only matter on metadata that does not have any
other maintainer.
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Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer & Council Member
E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2007-05-23 21:19 ` Robin H. Johnson
@ 2007-05-27 12:17 ` Thilo Bangert
2007-05-27 14:30 ` Radoslaw Stachowiak
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From: Thilo Bangert @ 2007-05-27 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org> said:
> On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:49:43PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> > Also, many ebuilds put the herds email address as an additional
> > <maintainer>. This is simply redundant and unless complaints are
> > raised, all herd <maintainer> tags will be removed and replaced by
> > the appropriate <herd> tag instead. Work on this will start over the
> > weekend.
>
> No.
>
> See the thread about automatic assignment for more about this.
> More importantly, once the automatic stuff goes into play, the
> existence of the herd tag will only matter on metadata that does not
> have any other maintainer.
sorry - to have missed this earlier.
from your proposal:
>Case 2 - Metadata contains a single maintainer
>----------------------------------------------
> The herd field is not used.
so, you want to ignore the herd tag, as soon as there is a single
maintainer tag? why?
we have <herd> on every single package in the tree (well ~1900 packages
with <herd>no-herd</herd>). my guess is that most of the roughly 4500
packages that currently have a <herd> and a <maintainer> which is not a
<herd>, will need to adjust their metadata to reflect the situation where
the maintainer should get the bug asssigned and the herd gets CC'd...
IMHO the herd should always get an email on bugs with packages belonging
to the herd... if this is not the case, what is the purpose of the herd?
or asked differently: what can the herd in <maintainer> give you that the
<herd> can't?
other than that i (still) agree with the overall proposal. lets just make
sure to codify the policy which has been agreed upon...
regards
Thilo
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check
2007-05-27 12:17 ` Thilo Bangert
@ 2007-05-27 14:30 ` Radoslaw Stachowiak
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From: Radoslaw Stachowiak @ 2007-05-27 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 27/05/07, Thilo Bangert <bangert@gentoo.org> wrote:
[...and many others...]
What I deeply miss from gentoo-dev mailing list is lack of summary at
end of discussions. Current situation is that at the end of such
disputes very often (of course not always :) is still unclear if:
* decision has been made (and what it is)
* previous approach has been changed (or it hasn't, with pointer (URL) to it)
* documents were updated (to address change or to simply provide
better wording) w/ URLs
* nothing has been changed due to X, and next approach will be in X months.
It's even more difficult to grasp outcome for non native english speakers.
Solution I propose is, that author of the first post in a thread, who
started the discussion (if there was some discusion), should at end of
it (let's assume it's 3 days after last mail) write summary with those
4 points I outlined above. Simple and will help greatly to track later
decisions/changes, or postponed items.
--
radoslaw.
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