From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HwIi5-0001ft-9Q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:11:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l57EAY31001187; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:10:34 GMT Received: from alnrmhc15.comcast.net (alnrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.225.95]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l57E7Jh8028174 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:07:19 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-76-106-119-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net[76.106.119.205]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20070607140717b15008eruqe>; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:07:17 +0000 Message-ID: <46681114.6020708@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:07:16 -0400 From: Kumba User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML References: <4667A38B.7070308@gentoo.org> <20070607132202.2a9eb9b5.genone@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20070607132202.2a9eb9b5.genone@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 068a6c7b-56d9-4840-8bd4-06f2d07df4e8 X-Archives-Hash: 167740fe24734844f860a23ccd263972 Marius Mauch wrote: > > Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev to that new list. > Most of what I wrote was tongue-in-cheek, but the point was that -dev is far too often filled with non-technical issues that ultimately result into flame wars of the likes that'd humble mighty Troy herself. It is also our primary list for discussion of all-things gentoo, and so the -dev moniker doesn't even really fit right now. By separating the technical and non-technical, and allowing people to voluntarily subscribe to the -politics one or not (since -dev is basically a requirement for devship), My hope is that -dev finally gets back on track as being purely technical. That is, PMS discussions, ebuild additions/removals, new developer intros, why quoting variables like ${S} is safer than not quoting them in ebuilds, questions about bash-fu, and so on. These belong on -dev. The rest, the non-technical, can go elsewhere, IMHO, and people are free to subscribe to it if they wish to participate in the discussions there or not. I myself would likely stay off that list, because I care more about technical things. I live ~30mi outside of the DC Beltway; I get enough politics as it is. Think about it -- I'm 30mi away from Wolf Blitzer. Scary stuff man. --Kumba -- Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead "Such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels of the world: small hands do them because they must, while the eyes of the great are elsewhere." --Elrond -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list