[gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[William Hubbs]

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Hi all,

app-accessibility/festival has not done a release upstream in some time.
We currently have several bugs against this package, including one
security bug.

Since a lot of blind people are now using espeak as their software
speech synthesizer, and the new version of emacspeak (version 26, which
will be in portage pretty soon) can support espeak, I would like to know
this.

Once emacspeak 26 is in the tree, I would like to move festival out of
accessibility, or remove it from the tree.

If there is a reason to keep festival in the tree,
can someone please contact me and take over the package?


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William Hubbs
gentoo accessibility team lead
williamh@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Jeroen Roovers]

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 23:25:07 -0500
William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:

> If there is a reason to keep festival in the tree,

Bug #163285 [1] has still not been resolved, and some arches have
abandoned it without having keyworded espeak, which means that many
arches still don't support app-accessibility/espeak now:

Keywords for app-accessibility/festival:

             | a a a h i m m p p p s s s s x x
             | l m r p a 6 i p p p 3 h p p 8 8
             | p d m p 6 8 p c c c 9   a a 6 6
             | h 6   a 4 k s   6 - 0   r r   -
             | a 4             4 m     c c   f
             |                   a       -   b
             |                   c       f   s
             |                   o       b   d
             |                   s       s
             |                           d
-------------+--------------------------------
1.4.3-r3     | + +   + +   ~ + +       +   +
1.4.3-r4     | ~ +   ~ ~   + ~ ~       +   ~
1.95_beta    | ~ +   ~ ~     + ~       +   ~
1.95_beta-r1 | + +   + +     + +       +   +
1.95_beta-r2 | ~ ~   ~ ~     ~ ~       ~   ~
1.95_beta-r3 | ~ ~   ~ ~     ~ ~       ~   ~

Keywords for app-accessibility/espeak:

             | a a a h i m m p p p s s s s x x
             | l m r p a 6 i p p p 3 h p p 8 8
             | p d m p 6 8 p c c c 9   a a 6 6
             | h 6   a 4 k s   6 - 0   r r   -
             | a 4             4 m     c c   f
             |                   a       -   b
             |                   c       f   s
             |                   o       b   d
             |                   s       s
             |                           d
     --------+--------------------------------
     1.19    |   +                         ~
     1.20-r1 |   ~                         ~
     1.22    |   ~           ~         ~   ~
     1.25    |   ~           ~         ~   ~


> can someone please contact me and take over the package?

It's probably more fruitful now to get espeak ported to more arches. It
doesn't even seem to have a configure script right now, or other
mechanisms to support bigendian systems throughout the build. Smells
like Summer of Code. :)


Kind regards,
     JeR

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/163285
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Ned Ludd]

On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:25 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: 
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> Hi all,
> 
> app-accessibility/festival has not done a release upstream in some time.

Does not look like they have declared it dead however.

> We currently have several bugs against this package, including one
> security bug.

I attached a patch to the security bug for you guys.

> Since a lot of blind people are now using espeak as their software
> speech synthesizer, and the new version of emacspeak (version 26, which
> will be in portage pretty soon) can support espeak, I would like to know
> this.
> 
> Once emacspeak 26 is in the tree, I would like to move festival out of
> accessibility, or remove it from the tree.

One thing to note here is that espeak is only marked stable on amd64 
while festival is marked stable on mips ppc amd64 ppc64 sparc 
ia64 alpha hppa x86. Removing it from the tree does not seem like 
an ideal alternative any time soon.

> If there is a reason to keep festival in the tree,
> can someone please contact me and take over the package?

I don't want to take it over. But I've used festival and friends often 
in the past for lazy reading days. I know it's also used supported 
by asterisk and a few other programs. 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Wulf C. Krueger]

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Hello William,

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007 06:25:07 AM William Hubbs wrote:
> app-accessibility/festival has not done a release upstream in some
> time. 

I don't really *need* festival from an accessibility point of view but I'm 
using it from time to time and find it quite useful.

> Once emacspeak 26 is in the tree, I would like to move festival out of
> accessibility, or remove it from the tree.

I'd really like to see festival kept in the tree. If that meant having to 
maintain it myself, I would do it if I absolutely had to. :)

Best regards, Wulf

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Mike Auty]

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It can also,
	Be used by kismet, but it's not clear whether there are strong bindings
there, or if espeak could easily be substituted using kismet.conf.
Dunno if that's useful or not, but there you go...
	Mike  5:)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Steev Klimaszewski]

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William Hubbs wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> app-accessibility/festival has not done a release upstream in some time.
> We currently have several bugs against this package, including one
> security bug.
> 
> Since a lot of blind people are now using espeak as their software
> speech synthesizer, and the new version of emacspeak (version 26, which
> will be in portage pretty soon) can support espeak, I would like to know
> this.
> 
> Once emacspeak 26 is in the tree, I would like to move festival out of
> accessibility, or remove it from the tree.
> 
> If there is a reason to keep festival in the tree,
> can someone please contact me and take over the package?
> 
> 

Hi William,

Could you point me to a noob's guide to espeak?  I cannot seem to get it
to output any speech.  voyageur on IRC stated that it worked for him via
'aoss espeak "hello world"' - however, I don't have aoss.  I inteded to
test against kismet, but without being able to get it working
standalone, I can't get it working with kismet.

Thanks~!

- -- Steev
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[William Hubbs]

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On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 08:56:58AM -0500, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> Hi William,
> 
> Could you point me to a noob's guide to espeak?  I cannot seem to get it
> to output any speech.  voyageur on IRC stated that it worked for him via
> 'aoss espeak "hello world"' - however, I don't have aoss.  I inteded to
> test against kismet, but without being able to get it working
> standalone, I can't get it working with kismet.

Hi Steev,

The only documentation I know of for espeak is on the home page and also
gets installed in /usr/share/doc when you emerge the package.

What are aoss and kismet?  I haven't worked with those.

Thanks,

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gentoo accessibility team lead
williamh@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Jan Kundrát]

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William Hubbs wrote:
> kismet

Popular wireless analyzer. It has some functions for working with
festival, although I haven't tried them yet.

Cheers,
-jkt

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

[Steve Long]

William Hubbs wrote:
> aoss
> 
Alsa OSS (Open Sound System) interface (deprecated, aiui)


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