From: Richard Freeman <rich@thefreemanclan.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:06:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4665EC5F.5090500@thefreemanclan.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070605222459.GF1171@superlupo.rechner>
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Wernfried Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:00:25PM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>> I really have to agree with you. The proctors have completely lost
>> their way. They are ineffective. They tend to compound the problems
>> they were created to stop. They are slow. They have not prevented
>> anything, which was the reason for their creation. Rather, what they
>> *have* done is stifle conversation, piss off people, get in the way of
>> Developer Relations reports, and otherwise making developers feel like
>> they don't want to participate in our official discussion channels.
>
> Thanks for your trust and not even consulting with me before stabbing
> me in the back in public. I won't claim proctors has been perfect, but
> which team in Gentoo is? Also i don't have even a remote clue what
> half of your allegations are about, but frankly, i don't care any
> more.
> The council created this mess, and i've done my best to fix it.
>
You'll certainly be missed by some of us (at least those who prefer not
to read about the weekly flamewar over at slashdot)... :)
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-05 20:09 [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble Benjamin Judas
2007-06-05 20:18 ` Stephen P. Becker
2007-06-05 20:30 ` Peter Weller
2007-06-05 20:43 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2007-06-05 20:58 ` Raúl Porcel
2007-06-05 20:30 ` Christian Hartmann
2007-06-05 20:38 ` Petteri Räty
2007-06-05 20:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 20:29 ` Benjamin Judas
2007-06-05 20:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-05 20:53 ` Christian Hartmann
2007-06-05 21:00 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 21:08 ` George Prowse
2007-06-05 21:52 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 20:44 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning Roy Bamford
2007-06-05 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-05 22:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-05 22:17 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2007-06-05 22:24 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-06-05 23:06 ` Richard Freeman [this message]
2007-06-05 21:00 ` Stephen P. Becker
2007-06-05 21:13 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 Wernfried Haas
2007-06-05 21:24 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2007-06-05 21:38 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-06-05 21:45 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-05 21:58 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-06-05 21:39 ` Harald van Dijk
2007-06-05 21:43 ` Retiring (Was Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2) Jason Wever
2007-06-05 22:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-05 22:20 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-06-06 0:53 ` Christel Dahlskjaer
2007-06-06 4:22 ` Peter Weller
[not found] ` <20070605212204.GA5638@ferdyx.org>
2007-06-05 21:50 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 22:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-05 22:08 ` Richard Brown
2007-06-05 22:17 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-06-05 22:33 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-06-06 15:29 ` Grant Goodyear
2007-06-06 15:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 15:44 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 15:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 16:05 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 16:08 ` expose
2007-06-06 16:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 16:32 ` expose
2007-06-06 22:07 ` Dawid Węgliński
2007-06-07 1:06 ` expose
2007-06-06 18:03 ` Anders Hellgren
2007-06-06 22:32 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-06-06 16:00 ` expose
2007-06-06 16:33 ` Mike Doty
2007-06-06 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 16:56 ` Mike Doty
2007-06-06 17:44 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2007-06-06 17:08 ` Mauricio Lima Pilla
2007-06-06 23:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-06 16:58 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 16:06 ` Marien Zwart
2007-06-06 17:40 ` Maurice van der Pot
2007-06-06 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] Proctors - improve the concept or discard it? Wulf C. Krueger
2007-06-06 17:16 ` expose
2007-06-06 23:47 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-07 0:08 ` George Prowse
2007-06-07 0:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-07 10:15 ` George Prowse
2007-06-07 10:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-07 10:47 ` Richard Freeman
2007-06-07 11:45 ` George Prowse
2007-06-07 11:23 ` Alexandre Buisse
2007-06-07 11:51 ` George Prowse
2007-06-06 17:37 ` Galevsky
2007-06-06 22:12 ` Richard Freeman
[not found] ` <4666ECD2.5040603@gentoo.org>
2007-06-06 17:52 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-06-06 19:31 ` George Prowse
2007-06-06 23:45 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-07 13:37 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-07 22:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-06-07 13:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Wulf C. Krueger
2007-06-07 22:45 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-06-06 17:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 Josh Sled
2007-06-06 18:14 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 23:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-06 18:17 ` expose
2007-06-06 18:25 ` expose
2007-06-06 19:36 ` Jeffrey Gardner
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