From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HknTi-0005DJ-My for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 20:37:11 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l46Ka9L2021409; Sun, 6 May 2007 20:36:09 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l46KY7dx018968 for ; Sun, 6 May 2007 20:34:07 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.1] (253.199.broadband5.iol.cz [88.100.199.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305CA6550B for ; Sun, 6 May 2007 20:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <463E3BB3.4010105@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 22:33:55 +0200 From: Jakub Moc User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070419) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade References: <1178433936.13701.10.camel@ip6-localhost> <200705061543.45529.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070506205347.1e4e8801@snowflake> <200705061600.56357.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070506210618.0517c76c@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <20070506210618.0517c76c@snowflake> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=CEBA3D9E; url=http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCDC9401382B66C1A4F81BB04" X-Archives-Salt: 7f9cdb62-bf18-430a-894b-9b139428d184 X-Archives-Hash: 40f34f651c8f986d45056f0d2294d37f This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCDC9401382B66C1A4F81BB04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sun, 6 May 2007 16:00:56 -0400 > Dan Meltzer wrote: >>> Er, making elog logged by default would not solve the "requires an >>> explicit read" problem. Making elog require an explicit read would >>> be far too annoying because most elog notices are noise. We've been >>> over this already. >> Not if one filters it properly. ELOG_CLASSES=3D"warn error" sounds >> like a sane default to me. =20 >=20 > So you want users to have to explicitly acknowledge all ewarn notices? > Now *that*'s a way of making the system useless by overusing it. Why would you acknowledge them? They are a different feature (plus, seriously no mail gets automagically marked as read, if you use the mail elog feature e.g. Maybe you should actually try to use the stuff before recycling your 'our experience shows' and 'elog sucks' scratched record once again.) Plus, why's this thread been hijacked again for the paludis upgrade stuff that doesn't need any news at all and that's been committed in breach of GLEP42 itself?! - paludis already loudly warns about the deprecated syntax whenever used;= - drop this "users like it" and "experience has shown" stuff. Experience based on 4 news items is no experience at all; experience based on one-package overlay is irrelevant wrt a repository with thousands of ebuilds; and "users like it" may be nice for one package overlay, and a genuine PITA for a tree with thousands of ebuilds at the same time. Repeating it doesn't go anywhere, nor will it make any of your point more valid. Thanks. --=20 Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:jakub@gentoo.org GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3= D9E ... still no signature ;) --------------enigCDC9401382B66C1A4F81BB04 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPju4hxfV/c66PZ4RAy8DAJ9x5tLikSp7lf8KtVmAGcMATrOnSwCfSRh/ xY6GKOA/qMKD3mbbmNWEYYI= =ohRL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCDC9401382B66C1A4F81BB04-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list