From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkN7T-0005d5-4N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 16:28:27 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l45GRU8I028826; Sat, 5 May 2007 16:27:30 GMT Received: from spunkymail-a15.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-66.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.66]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l45GPVjt026530 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 16:25:31 GMT Received: from [192.168.2.124] (c-67-180-39-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.180.39.52]) by spunkymail-a15.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02047F017 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 09:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <463CB00D.5030503@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 09:25:49 -0700 From: Alec Warner Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070411) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24 References: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> <463BA9BF.4080708@digital-trauma.de> <200705042356.10789.peper@gentoo.org> <463BAFF8.80100@gentoo.org> <20070504222225.GA11120@anubis.perspektivbredband.net> <463BB5F3.7060202@gentoo.org> <20070505001746.5c8e2fb6@snowflake> <20070505100741.6d6e43b9@sheridan.genone.homeip.net> <20070505093717.3b34b015@azathoth.beerandrocks.net> <20070505171203.7886cddd@sheridan.genone.homeip.net> <20070505162353.00f35d86@snowflake> <20070505174446.121093ac@sheridan.genone.homeip.net> <20070505165146.053e8122@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <20070505165146.053e8122@snowflake> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f8dccb76-23c6-45a3-84f2-99d9e93f86ed X-Archives-Hash: 8dd05abb61c3e9161ed27053117ef3fb Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:44:46 +0200 > Marius Mauch wrote: >> Why did I knew that this argument would come? Maybe because it's your >> default reaction to any opposition. > > What, providing evidence to the contrary? What more do you want? > This is such a hilarious thread; so let me start by half agreeing with Ciaran here. The whole point of news items is to only hit affected users with news. So in this case it doesn't particularly matter the number of news items, if there are a 1000 Paludis related news items, only Paludis users are affected, and they can then complain about having to read a bunch of items related to Paludis. This I can agree with. There is a minor point about item size and quantity and forcing users to rsync news that isn't relevant to them. The reality is that those news items could become relevant in the future; so they must be downloaded anyway. I think that keeping news to a minimum is a good thing; but in this case I'm not going to argue about one news item. However if Paludis does say, a news item every release, I will begin to wonder at the number of 'critical compatibility' problems in Paludis, since I hold most of the Paludis in high regard and I know they can produce software without critical issues. Fighting over one news item is I think pointless. If there is a trend then there is at least data to back it. Otherwise you are arguing over specific bits in a file with a few thousands characters in it. -Alec -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list