From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HcQPs-0005o6-HK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:22:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3DIKxFN022054; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:20:59 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3DIGfqq016071 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:16:42 GMT Received: from [10.99.0.6] (adsl-71-158-135-138.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net [71.158.135.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C94C65C91 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <461FC8EE.8090904@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:16:14 -0700 From: Joshua Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070302) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) References: <20070401092940.1B4C26441E@smtp.gentoo.org> <200704131053.39321.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070413162514.75393d90@snowflake> <200704131152.17004.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070413174251.6e46a67e@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <20070413174251.6e46a67e@snowflake> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig770069D3A684AEFA73675897" X-Archives-Salt: 6d592153-03d0-4483-a712-e1fa38ed5ad3 X-Archives-Hash: 9a31bb8c5f0b9a1552bb0e31c7d7f78b This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig770069D3A684AEFA73675897 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > The arch teams have been pushing for this for a long time. They're > trying to get this enforced, but are having limited success because > there's no way for FEATURES=3Dtest to become widely used that won't lea= d > to broken user systems. Moving src_test to be always on in future EAPIs= > is an easy way of helping arch teams achieve this goal without breaking= > anyone's system in the meantime. > > =20 Erm, no I have not at all (speaking as a project lead for x86). Test is not viable for a lot of reason as being on by default. One that I can come up with off the top of my head is php. The test suite for it makes test inadvisable on any desktop system, I'd say the same for a server as well. Not to mention that a lot of upstream test functions are in fact themselves broken because they require dependencies that are not required for the application itself. This is not a simple case of downstream (being gentoo) doing this. There has to be quite a bit changed for test to be viable and even then I don't think it really is unfortunately due to test packages that can take 12+ hours on a decently equipped modern system. --------------enig770069D3A684AEFA73675897 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGH8juSENan+PfizARAusIAKCE1o0Iqckz6clpHeEWvFvWII2zzQCfRAL5 vxsIos1GxHv+8kGc9MLeAXw= =gnLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig770069D3A684AEFA73675897-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list