From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HXBwv-0000Rb-8F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:55:05 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l2U7qt6P018797; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:52:55 GMT Received: from serverkommune.de (serverkommune.de [88.198.12.136]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2U7nj21014309 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:49:45 GMT Received: (qmail 32513 invoked by uid 89); 30 Mar 2007 09:49:40 +0200 Received: from u2766.u.pppool.de (HELO ?10.0.23.25?) (trauma@serverkommune.de@89.56.39.102) by serverkommune.de with ESMTPA; 30 Mar 2007 09:49:40 +0200 Message-ID: <460CC112.7090401@digital-trauma.de> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:49:38 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?VGhvbWFzIFLDtnNuZXI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de-AT; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070309 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis References: <200703240028.15461.peper@gentoo.org> <200703251403.38629.vapier@gentoo.org> <4606BF5C.9060304@klever.net> <200703271519.29674.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070327211510.0b426e09@snowflake> <308E0F46-7457-48E2-956F-23FB8439B6FD@gentoo.org> <20070329095658.2851e8c4@snowflake> <9F32AF2F-86CB-4199-8E87-A93E7F5F372F@gentoo.org> <20070329185059.12bf7569@snowflake> <460C25F2.7030603@digital-trauma.de> <20070329220457.57123efc@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <20070329220457.57123efc@snowflake> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=1ACEC659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id l2U7qt8K018797 X-Archives-Salt: d03edf5a-0e0d-4603-89c4-cba75b3d551d X-Archives-Hash: 40508a09f9f51a91582a8b531ff7b082 Hi, Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:47:46 +0200 > Thomas R=C3=B6sner wrote: > =20 >> Other things I want from Gentoo right now depend on factors other >> than the package manager, too; prebuilt packages >> =20 > > A package manager that supports a better binary package format > (split out local metadata would be a good start) combined with a third > party binary provider could deliver that with no tree changes. But then you'd need a tree of binary packages, which you'd only get with=20 many users of your package manager, which would depend on official=20 Gentoo adoption, which would depend on compelling other features, which=20 would depend on having a way to get them into the ebuild tree without=20 breaking portage. That's what I mean. I think you know that and that's=20 why you did work on PMS, but then you point out features paludis has and=20 portage hasn't repeatedly in a way that apparently builds up resistance=20 in people here. Hm, perhaps you should let somebody else do the PR for paludis? :-) > Heck, > it's even doable with Portage's binaries, although according to a > Gentoo-based distribution that tried it, your 30 minutes would be > optimistic for -uDpv world... > =20 Yes. Also it's quite easy to screw up using the current format, nothing=20 I'd recommend for heterogeneous environments. >> binary-breakage protection >> =20 > > Funnily enough... That one can be done without tree changes too via > something we're calling reparenting. There're some vague suggestions of > roughly how to do it at [1]. > [1]: http://paludis.pioto.org/trac/ticket/129 > > =20 Now that'd be an interesting feature... *thinks about joining #paludis* Regards, Thomas --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list