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From: "Dan Meltzer" <parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation
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On 4/17/07, Steve Long <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> Jakub Moc wrote:
>
> > So.... Since devrel has been so kind and suspended me, based on our
> > brand new CoC, I don't feel any need to stay on this project any more.
> > I'm therefore resigning from this project.
> >
> OMG NO! Please reconsider.
>
> > I'm pretty sure it will be actually no loss for Gentoo, since those
> > folks that contributed to my retirement far outweigh the benefit I
> > could ever possibly be to this project. This can be clearly evidenced
> > by their long-lasting good record as in [1] and [2] and [3]. In
> > devrel's own words, one needs to "respect the wishes of maintainers".
> >
> Man first you devs think it's your god-given right to behave nastily to any
> usr, then you get all sensitive about Jakub on bugzilla. That is lame, imo.
> Maybe there should be something about requiring a thick skin to be a dev,
> since you so clearly require it of usrs.
Please do some research before spouting off. Watch the bug-wranglers@
alias for a few weeks (its too late now) to see that jakub tended to
yell and scream and make a bigger mess than he resolved a lot of the
time when it came to bug wrangling.
>
> >
> > Finally, my thanks go to devrel and especially our devrel lead, for
> > the professional, unbiased etc. conduct they've presented on my
> > devrel bug [5] (sorry, ask your friendly devrel member to unrestrict
> > if you can't read it, after all I can't access it either), as well as
> > before. I indeed entirely failed when I removed myself from the
> > "discussion about possible misbehaviour on [my] side". I'm pretty sure
> > the fact that noone CCed me there in the first place for about 9
> > months was just an unfortunate oversight of our fully professional
> > devrel.
> >
> So who watches the watchmen? IOW who does one take a complaint about devrel
> to, and will there be any action?
>
> The classic answer was always "We watch each other," but that's clearly not
> working if you are left out of a discussion regarding yourself for 9
> months.
>
> /me eyes sourceMage in desperation.
>
>
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