From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GJevR-0002yo-4v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:29:21 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k82NS0Ce007214; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:28:00 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k82NP2x1023476 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:25:02 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p46so181808nfa for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WXwZaaWG+e2jR4HvdtyZ4Rw9z71Z2yA0hJ2UbXxMPSDaxvuiEm/lKdzPWXMWbgdHSO85r7osILG685Nu//UhPfG0zcU/CZjGPloRFqkWsIpngytwIm48YOPHJt592iZLl9SwtGIdcFKccbd+WIDJ1pwUSa4XrV5heajgRQeZZ3M= Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr4835700nfj; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.204.8 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 16:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46059ce10609021623p629ff47ye2842718d0829529@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:23:31 -0400 From: "Dan Meltzer" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44F95E3E.9000708@gentoo.org> <44F96559.6010003@gentoo.org> <44F96881.90806@gentoo.org> <44F98E43.5040307@gentoo.org> <46059ce10609021529q2ccf2db0k22666f295f287824@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: f1c0b9d6-cac0-4d78-93c8-50d773e10946 X-Archives-Hash: 0850e0047f2d2124905161fd467438ee On 9/2/06, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/2/06, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > On 9/2/06, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > > On 9/2/06, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > Give us about 3000 more developers, and sure* ;) > > > > > > I don't think that that's good thing to be saying to our users. > > > > Is it a bad thing to be saying to your developers? > > It wasn't said to developers, it was said to a user. It was in response to gimli, who unless he stole his @g.o address is a developer. > > > The gcc-4.1 stabilization bug has been open for a month and a half. > > That's great, but that's not an announcement. Folks aren't going to > go digging through bugs to find stuff like this. > > > Thats fairly good notice... > > Only to the folks who knew about that bug. For the wider community > ... it's not notice. The wider community will not be effected until they manually make the switch to 4.1, just like any other gcc upgrade. Before doing this one would assume they would do a little research. > > > Warnings have also appeared on > > planet.gentoo.org, and in the GWN. > > Tsunam posted that there was a push on to get gcc-4.1 stable, but > there was no target date, and no firm statement that said it would > definitely be happening. He posted this on July 19th. Was there > another warning, with dates and stuff? > > The GWN warning was last week. My apologies if there was an earlier > one that I missed. > > My apologies, but I've been unable to find an announcement on -dev. I do not know if there was on on -dev, I remember hearing for a little while now that 2006.1 was going to be gcc-4.1.1, but I don't remember if I read that or heard it in the -x86 irc channel, it may have been there which doesn't really count :) Beyond the stabilization warnings however, I would think that gcc-4.1.1 entering unstable (which had a number of announcements IIRC) should be warning to all users that it was now on track to be stable, and to be prepared. I really do not see what kind of further warning was necessary or even possible... maybe I'm missing something. (Other than the yet-to-be-implemented GLEP42 of course) Dan, > > Best regards, > Stu > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list