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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:56:49 -0400
From: Dan Meltzer <parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support
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Seems like use.force might be a bad name..... when I first read the
email, and saw use.force, the first thing that came to mind was
"gentoo forcing something?" and even after reading the email, I
wouldn't expect to be able to override something that was "forced."
I'm not sure what a better name would be, but I think there may be
one...
also, wouldn't the override be in use.unforce? >_<
On 6/13/05, Simon Stelling <blubb@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Sven Wegener wrote:
> > We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of
> > an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE
> > flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this
> > flag by make.conf, the environment or package.use. But we would not be
> > Gentoo, if we don't leave a backdoor. You can disable the flag by
> > putting -flag in /etc/portage/profile/use.force if you really need to.
> > Same goes for sub-profiles that need to disable this flag.
>
> Yay!
>
> > I gues use.force has some other places where it is useful. Like the
> > default-darwin profiles which use ARCH="ppc" and USE="ppc-macos" but the
> > ppc-macos flag can be removed by using USE="-ppc-macos" in the
> > environment. Or selinux profiles, to force the selinux flag to be turned
> > on.
>
> It'll be also very useful for the amd64 profiles as in 2005.0 the use
> flag 'multilib' is disabled but multilib-support is forced. (There are
> no-multilib-profiles though.)
>
> > Comments?
>
> I consider use.force very useful, it'll finally make all the amd64 users
> stop asking themselves why the documenation says they will get multilib
> but the use flag is disabled, so please, go ahead implementing it.
>
> Regards,
>
> blubb
>
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> Simon Stelling
> Gentoo/AMD64 Operational Co-Lead
> blubb@gentoo.org
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