From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GhuqE-0007eN-8f for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:20:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kA8LJDgj004520; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:19:13 GMT Received: from mail.ineton.ro (mail.ineton.ro [217.156.27.7]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kA8LHC0i021086 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:17:12 GMT Received: (qmail 25527 invoked by uid 210); 8 Nov 2006 23:17:12 +0200 Received: from 217.156.27.36 (mrness@217.156.27.36) by hera (envelope-from , uid 201) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (bitdefender: v7.0/2490/312793. spamassassin: 3.1.3. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(217.156.27.36):. Processed in 0.993935 secs); 08 Nov 2006 21:17:12 -0000 Received: from rev-dns-36.ineton.ro (HELO ?217.156.27.36?) (mrness@217.156.27.36) by mail.ineton.ro with ESMTPA; 8 Nov 2006 23:17:11 +0200 Message-ID: <4552494D.6040206@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:17:01 +0200 From: Alin Nastac Organization: Gentoo Foundation User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061004) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November References: <20061101134037.6F126649AC@smtp.gentoo.org> <20061108175413.7a76fd3c@snowdrop.home> <20061108200152.GA4007@mail.lieber.org> <200611082114.27008@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> In-Reply-To: <200611082114.27008@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4681F5A887BAF2831E685594" X-Archives-Salt: f6f44061-378b-452d-b31a-b56e6a455baf X-Archives-Hash: 3366a8d21887b979d231174d29728cc5 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4681F5A887BAF2831E685594 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten=C3=B2 wrote: > On Wednesday 08 November 2006 21:01, Kurt Lieber wrote: > =20 >> So, in other words, spammers aren't abusing anything related to SPF. >> They're sending mail using forged return-paths and SPF is highlighting= >> that. Which is exactly what SPF is designed to do. >> =20 > If I were to send my gentoo mail through a mail.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org= , with=20 > its own SPF record, (I'm not as this is not a "real" domain I have acce= ss to,=20 > nor a mailserver for what it's worth), with a From: flameeyes@gentoo.or= g and=20 > a Sender: flameeyes@flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, would it be a PASS or a FA= IL in=20 > SPF? > > =20 It doesn't matter what From, Sender or whatever else in the message heade= r. The part that counts is the Return-Path (the "mail from:" part of the SMTP protocol). Of course, MUAs such as Thunderbird don't give you the possibility to set that and it will be the same as your From address. A SPF-capable MTA will PASS your message to the recipient. However, SA will add 1.1 to the message spam score because of the SPF_NEUTRAL test. --------------enig4681F5A887BAF2831E685594 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFUklSozkEeOnWD00RAjLZAJ0QF0Nm8A09/xH6Q2cLWkJeGd4TfgCfcmdb R9AFXyM9zLVVVD9BKQS1WP0= =GnnJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4681F5A887BAF2831E685594-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list