[gentoo-dev] [DOWNTIME devmanual.gentoo.org]

[gentoo-dev] [DOWNTIME devmanual.gentoo.org]

[Alec Warner]

The DNS records have been pulled[1] for the devmanual due to a 
complaint[2] by it's original author (Ciaran McCreesh) regarding a 
violation of it's license.

It is my assumption that it will remain off-line until the complaint is 
resolved in a manner that satisfies both parties.

This is just a heads up.

Thanks,
-Alec Warner
antarus@gentoo.org

PS:
While a flamewar will probably ensue; this is not the intent of this 
mail or of the bug filing.  Please keep your unproductive comments 
off-list and off the bug.  I will lock the bug if it becomes necessary.
This mail and the bug exist to allow transparency for this situation; I 
don't want an open field where everyone throws their two cents in just 
because they can.  Only comment if you have something relevant to say.

PSS: There may be a more recent complaint, I will find out the date 
tomorrow.  I need to sleep now however and I figured people would be 
better off knowing where the devmanual went ;)

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150231
[2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/38567
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [DOWNTIME devmanual.gentoo.org]

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:12:53 -0400 Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| While a flamewar will probably ensue; this is not the intent of this 
| mail or of the bug filing.  Please keep your unproductive comments 
| off-list and off the bug.  I will lock the bug if it becomes
| necessary. This mail and the bug exist to allow transparency for this
| situation; I don't want an open field where everyone throws their two
| cents in just because they can.  Only comment if you have something
| relevant to say.

Ok, for the sake of transparency... Here's the request I sent. I only
did so after having being ignored repeatedly and deliberately by
plasmaroo, who refuses to even acknowledge that I've asked him to fix
things.

You'll note that nowhere did I demand that Kurt immediately pull
everything and start making a fuss in public. A simple "yes, there's
a problem, and we'll get it fixed within the next few days" would
have been fine. I deliberately kept this private because fixing a few
very simple things should not involve huge arguments in public. Ideally
it'd just involve a quick /query on IRC...

As for why attribution matters... Aside from the legal issue, the
*only* thing any of the devmanual authors get for having written it is
to get their name on it. There's no pay, no rewards. Replacing the
cover page author list with the name of one guy who didn't contribute
anything in a huge font is just about the most impressive "screw you"
one could possibly give to a volunteer.

Meh, but since this has been brought out in public, here's the full
text. Hopefully it'll help dispel some of the fud a few people are
spreading:

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Following up upon my previous post [3] and requests over IRC, which have
not yet been resolved:

The "Gentoo Development Guide" (devmanual), which is being hosted on a
gentoo.org domain at [1], is being distributed in violation of its
licence. The devmanual is distributed under the terms of the Creative
Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 licence [2], which has the following
to say in 4c:

"at a minimum such credit will appear where any other comparable
authorship credit appears and in a manner at least as prominent as such
other comparable authorship credit."

Note in particular "at least as prominent as".

The current cover page does not follow this requirement. It lists Tim
Yamin as 'Editor', with myself in smaller type below, and does not
include any of the other original authors (and copyright holders) with
the same prominence.

Please either restore the author credits to their original form or cease
from distributing the devmanual. It is my understanding that between the
listed Editor, QA, devrel, the Council, the Foundation and the people
maintaining the gentoo.org website, at least one available person should
be able to make this change -- if not, please let me know whom I should
contact.  I realise that it may take a few days to make the change; in
any case, please notify me of your intentions as soon as reasonably
possible.

Many thanks,

[1] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/
[2] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/
[3] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-dev&m=114850574909268&w=2
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Ciaran McCreesh
Mail                : ciaranm at ciaranm.org
Web                 : http://ciaranm.org/
as-needed is broken : http://ciaranm.org/show_post.pl?post_id=13


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [DOWNTIME devmanual.gentoo.org]

[Stuart Herbert]

Hi Ciaran,

On 10/6/06, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org> wrote:
> Meh, but since this has been brought out in public, here's the full
> text. Hopefully it'll help dispel some of the fud a few people are
> spreading:

Anyone spreading FUD over this issue should be ashamed of themselves.
The whole f/oss world owes its existance to folks honouring the
licenses that material is published under.

Best regards,
Stu
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