From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GQAoj-0001xw-H7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:45:21 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8KMiSnA013979; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:44:28 GMT Received: from egr.msu.edu (jeeves.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.127]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8KMfxN4028544 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:41:59 GMT Received: from [35.11.210.66] (warnera6.user.msu.edu [35.11.210.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by egr.msu.edu (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8KMfwUZ003317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4511C3C5.3000600@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:42:13 -0400 From: Alec Warner User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060612) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds References: <429613795-1158764726-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-1614084655-@bxe050-cell01.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <20060920212715.5e82c91d@snowdrop.home> <200609201433.18413.chriswhite@gentoo.org> <200609210024.42739.kugelfang@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200609210024.42739.kugelfang@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8067e314-a71c-40f0-ae2d-2f23e4e3e3b1 X-Archives-Hash: 912c7a3c34882645b58be51ddab5e289 This whole thread is quite disappointing to me. Someone comes up with a new way to use Gentoo; to make it a viable tool for a job; to make it USEFUL. This is what we are about here (or were?). "Put another way, the Gentoo philosophy is to create better tools." -Daniel Robbins Previous Chief Architect So unless that has changed and no one has updated the webpages... I don't think Gentoo should be about finding the "perfect technical solution." You notice the quote doesn't say "perfect tools" or "the best tools", just better ones. I don't think new projects should be subjected to some crazy GLEP process just because they might be relevant to the entire community at some point in the foreseeable future (which is every project). Hell I started TreeCleaners; We remove packages from the tree; where was the call for a GLEP then? I don't savor the way this project was announced (I only know of it via Stuart's blog; and I personally would want some working stuff before making a project page); however I appreciate even less the amount of flak that he has taken for trying something new. Once again; if you have technical considerations about his idea then I'm sure he would like to hear them. However I didn't see any in my gentoo-dev-ml scrollback; so I'll assume everyone has mostly baseless comments to make. As Donnie said; if this is the thanks one gets for trying out a new idea; then why try at all. -Alec antarus@gentoo.org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list