From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GQ8Aj-0003nG-N5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:55:54 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8KJt3UC029217; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:55:03 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8KJqF8R025771 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:52:16 GMT Received: from [10.99.0.29] (adsl-71-158-135-138.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net [71.158.135.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A38B647A6 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <45119BED.5050908@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:52:13 -0700 From: Joshua Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds References: <45103E6B.4020308@gentoo.org> <1158760778.9800.2.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <45114A81.30600@gentoo.org> <1158763780.9800.15.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <20060920181635.GA29243@cerberus.oppresses.us> <45118DC1.1000706@gentoo.org> <451192B6.1080408@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <451192B6.1080408@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a3f498ed-87cc-4ad9-8b7b-c85d05b3d4b3 X-Archives-Hash: b56ccb6924fc82f353f5fe20fb618808 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Joshua Jackson wrote: >> However, as >> Chris stated loudly, that this is something that falls directly in >> line with Release Engineerings goal. Its not a top level project that >> creates something entirely new. Its a extension of the release of >> images that allow you to install a system. > > Sure, neither is releng creating something entirely new. They're > deriving tarballs and CDs using ebuilds to build packages, so perhaps it > should be a subproject of the base project. You can make the "not > entirely new" argument for literally anything. Oh, and ebuilds wouldn't > work without a package manager, so perhaps all of this should fall under > the Portage project. But Portage wouldn't exist without people to work > on it, so maybe Devrel should be in charge of everything. > >> Thus in my opinion it being a top level project is to use what someone >> else said is ludicrous. >> Treecleaners is another newer project that has >> spawned and its a subproject of the QA team. Why can't the seeds group >> be a part of the Releng group. The entire point of the teams is to >> assist each other for a combined benefit. Being a top level project, >> you are in essence saying that we want to do this on our own without >> the help of a group that has been doing a less focused version of what >> you are aiming to provide. > > What I am getting from this is that you do not think people can > collaborate if they're not part of the same project. Being a project > just says that a group of developers want to work toward a certain goal. > > I encourage everyone to read over > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html and look at exactly > what a project is. > > Thanks, > Donnie > Oh lovely gross generalization time to use to prove points wrong because there isn't any real argument against them *nods* I'm glad we've reached this point of the conversation so quickly. It'll mean that someone will be calling someone else a member of a certain organization that kills all conversations. This is progressing nicely. I'm not going to be bothered to reply to the latter as it apparently went spacey... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFEZvtSENan+PfizARAjdtAJ4hMNcRxRmTZykoVWJb5PflJZ0XEgCfUVKs YGp0MDCjYlJKV8GdkO77IH8= =YI4J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list