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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: The Age of the Universe
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:20:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44FB3928.8040201@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157311917.13936.20.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org>

Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 07:41 +0000, Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote:
>> its developers. Edgar's call was targeted mostly at releng and QA teams, who
>> should poke developers to decrease number of similar problems.
> 
> Sorry, but Release Engineering has no wishes to become the "Gentoo
> Developer Babysitting Project" at this time.  We would much prefer work
> on our release media.  If some project, for any reason, is not up to
> snuff, it is *not* our job to fix it.  There are simply too many
> projects out there.  Would you rather we switch to a Debian model where
> everything has to be perfect, but we don't release for 5 years?
> 

I'd rather have people ignore trolls (hi Enrico in disguise)

If something is broken and _NOBODY_ noticed it before either:
- it isn't a showstopper for most of the devs and we hadn't got the
complaints from our users
- it should be p.masked or updated with medium priority.

if our favourite cu-troll wants to point that some programs written by a
dog are ugly he could use the same time to fill a proper bug and or
provide patches.

that said releng has the duty to just provide a livecd that works and
stages that could be used to start getting a working system and I think
they succeeded as usual.

There are some known issue pointed already but nothing could be perfect.

"Release quickly & release often" maybe isn't really THE solution, but
"make it to the deadline decently well and plan a -r1 to address some of
the known issues that could hit more people in the future(eg new hw
support)" looks good enough.

that said I hope that the sales on trollfood will end ...

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Luca Barbato

Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC
http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-03 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-02 10:34 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1 Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 11:04 ` Jakub Moc
2006-09-02 11:18   ` Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 12:26     ` The Age of the Universe (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1) Danny van Dyk
2006-09-02 13:36       ` [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 13:44         ` Charlie
2006-09-02 13:48         ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-02 14:05           ` Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 14:14             ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-02 15:53               ` Duncan
2006-09-03  7:41               ` Wiktor Wandachowicz
2006-09-03 11:29                 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-09-03 11:51                   ` Luca Barbato
2006-09-03 12:04                 ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-03 19:31                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-03 20:20                   ` Luca Barbato [this message]
2006-09-02 14:27             ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-09-02 13:55         ` Mike Doty
2006-09-02 23:37           ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-09-02 20:07             ` [gentoo-dev] Paid support Donnie Berkholz
2006-09-02 20:13               ` Mike Doty
2006-09-02 20:16               ` Aaron Kulbe
2006-09-02 20:40               ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-09-02 22:00               ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-02 22:31                 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-09-03 14:03                   ` Christel Dahlskjaer
2006-09-05 10:40                 ` Alastair Tse
2006-09-07  3:50                   ` Curtis Napier
2006-09-07 14:03                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-09  3:12                       ` Curtis Napier
2006-09-09  3:16                         ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-09-09  5:06                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-09-09 13:43                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-09 16:49                               ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-09-09 17:14                                 ` Jakub Moc
2006-09-09 19:03                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-10  4:23                                   ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-09-10  4:37                                     ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-09-10  0:52                     ` Ryan Hill
2006-09-02 14:06         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe Jakub Moc
2006-09-02 22:16         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-09-02 22:42           ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-09-03 10:28             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-09-03 13:02             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-09-03 13:13               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-09-03  5:11           ` Ryan Hill
2006-09-03 19:24             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-03 23:45               ` Ryan Hill
2006-09-02 13:59     ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1 Alec Warner
2006-09-02 21:55       ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-02 22:29         ` Dan Meltzer
2006-09-02 23:14           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-02 23:23             ` Dan Meltzer
2006-09-03 14:00               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
     [not found]         ` <44FA15D1.2020209@gentoo.org>
2006-09-03 14:16           ` [gentoo-dev] " Stuart Herbert
2006-09-03 14:36             ` Alec Warner
2006-09-03 14:42               ` Jeff Rollin
2006-09-03 14:55                 ` Alec Warner
2006-09-03 16:44                   ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-03 18:54                     ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-09-03 14:53               ` Christel Dahlskjaer
2006-09-03 16:40               ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-03 19:43                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-03 21:48                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2006-09-03 19:17         ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-02 11:12 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-09-02 20:36 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-09-03 19:11 ` Chris Gianelloni

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